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How to encourage Rupp to sell the Club

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by WilsdenBantam, Dec 22, 2024.

  1. JonButterfield

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    If we go up, even as champions, Rupp should still sell.

    Make no mistake, Rupp bought a side that finished in the League One playoffs in consecutive seasons. A great club that had finally found its feet and had one of the best managers in its history.

    We are nowhere near that level, and promotion to scrap it out in League One even with a midtable finish does not restore us to the level we were at before he bumbled his way into the club.

    We have endured 8 years of complete Ruppish with poor CEO's running our club because he himself can't be arsed.

    Rupp Out.
     
  2. Loyalbantam

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    As has been stated above, where are these buyers ? We as fans need them to go public if in fact they even exist.
    WAGMI went public, some supported the idea and some didn’t but it forced Rupp to respond.
    He decided not to sell that point and that’s fair enough but we need these buyers to come forwards and publicly state that they have offered x for the club and it has been refused.
    That way the fans can decide how they feel about it.
     
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  3. JonButterfield

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    They can't go public, mate, or Rupp won't deal with them.

    Even after the fact they'll have signed NDO's and Rupp sued the Wagmi boys
     
  4. Kevin1954

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    Absolutely spot on Rod. Taking notice yes, forcing a sale, would it heck.

    Say 2,000 didn’t renew at say £300 a season ticket , that’s £600,000 . Which will without question drop to the available playing budget ( Cooks three year deal? ) unless of course the club wants to build up year on year losses . Where else would it come from , ground rent and upkeep is fixed, we don’t have many players or assets with value to sell, commercial activity is provably already maximised , so it’s staff redundancies or the playing budget.

    At least it’s got people thinking of the consequences …
     
  5. Bronco

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    If we were to get promoted this season that in itself would make Bradford City a more viable reason for Rupp to sell, that shouldn't automatically make the club worth more than he originally paid.
    A league one club would be more appealing to any potential buyer, but deep down for all his bluster Rupp really doesn't want to own us.
    So maybe for for the next 4 months (it's hardly a life time) we get behind the club no matter who owns or runs it and come May fans make their own individual choices.
     
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  6. Loyalbantam

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    100%. I don’t understand why people can’t see it?
    Boycotts and non renewal does not hurt Rupp, it hurts the club.
    Like you’ve said, a small number of fans not renewing would only reduce the playing budget.
    It would take something like what Blackpool did to have any effect and and that’s just not gonna happen.
     
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  7. Fordy117

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    Nah, action needs to be taken now no matter how well or bad we are doing on the football pitch. Only thing leaving it until May is doing is wasting fans time:

    Even if we go up the club needs new ownership and leaders at the top. If we went up we would come straight back down. We are a poor side but even worse we are run by a set of muppets.
     
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  8. Onside

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    Maybe a reduced budget fits the narrative in any event. They want to be sustainable then that can’t be done with a high ST budget. Would that put the club at even higher risk possibly if they can’t manage on a smaller budget or bring in players that will be able to sustain the club in lg 2.
     
  9. Bantamsteve

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    Mr Rupp would want even more for a L1 club that's the crux to it the higher we get the price goes up
    Forget buying the ground in the clubs name, that ain't and never was going to happen either
    Whilst we are "sustainable" he's happy to see us bumble along in L2
    It's simple he doesn't have to run it, fund it and just show his face 3/4 times per season all the time living in hope without commitment we would morph into a club that someone values us the same as he does
    We aren't the only ones hoping a billionaire who loves the club suddenly appears
    Have read a lot on here about how bad it would be for fans to stop funding the club but as yet no other suggestions as to how we encourage Mr Rupp to leave and take his "team of no hopers with him"
    Rest assured Mr Rupp wouldn't let us go to the wall or to National League his pride wouldn't allow it
    He would have to fund it or lose everything a game of poker am afraid see who cracks first
    I won't hold my breath
     
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  10. Silverbantam

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    asking fans to actually support the club that’ll never happen
     
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  11. banbrotam

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    Yes great point. But I'm still laughing @Sergio Pinto III@Sergio Pinto III 's comment that the owners of. Blackpool and Coventry "listened".

    "Listened"??!!! It took about 6 seasons of protests and relegation to League 2 for the Oystons to even acknowledge their might be a problem at Blackpool.

    Meanwhile, our chairman bothers to acknowledge his mistakes, employ someone who knows what they are doing in David Sharpe and yet barely eight months and just one transfer window later the usual protestors on this forum are saying nothing's changed.

    I actually can't work out what's funnier, the belief that we'd be a lot better off without Rupp (and please note, yes he made a mess of things - the question is why on earth won't you give the new regime a chance, as if a new owner had put that in place, you'd be praising them) or that GA's job, complete with the best win % of any manager this century, is under threat.

    It's great to be back ;)
     
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  12. banbrotam

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    :joy::joy::joy:
     
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  13. banbrotam

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    Who's more appealing than us? Do you mean that those who bought Carlisle and Gillingham - through money on players and thought that would be the solution? Could you imagine what you'd had said if we'd bought Lewis for the fee Carlisle paid us?

    I also keep hearing about the asking price been too high. How do you or anybody on writing for WOAP know what the value us unless you've gone through the books?
     
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  14. Bronco

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    I'm not suggesting that those who've sworn never to return whilst Rupp and Sparks are at the club start attending games, but even when we win games some have to comment on the strength of the opposition etc, just enjoy the fact we got 3 points and got a little nearer what we're all wanting our club to achieve this season.
     
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  15. Rogered Tart

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    If the asking price wasn't that high we'd have already been purchased. It might be against your narrative (you only seem to pop up after a couple of victories) but a few have mentioned the interest behind the scenes of the purchase of the football club by interested parties.
     
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    I'd agree with you if in June 2016 we were a club with obvious resources. But the fact was, we were punching above our financial weight due to those two great cup runs.

    However, I agree that Rupp taking us back to L1 is nothing for him to celebrate and I bet he'd agree. It would be a step in the right direction though.

    If you can be magnanimous enough to look around at recent takeovers, you'll see at Birmingham, Huddersfield, Gillingham and Carlisle that they've got owners who've started off even more incompetently than Rupp did.

    Now I think that the first two will end up making their club better than what they found it fairly quickly - i.e. by the end of next season. But having someone like the Carlisle lot owning us, frightens me to death.

    The problem is there are too many examples of poor new owners (look where Scunthorpe are) for you to have such confidence that getting rid of Rupp makes everything OK.
     
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  17. banbrotam

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    Why do you think we're such a great club to purchase?

    I've a decent business brain on my head and I wouldn't go near us with your money until the ground situation is at least made a lot better in our favour.

    And what great examples do you have of football league clubs been bought and suddenly turned around into winning teams that become a division better in a season vs the known examples of clubs been bought who are made worse.

    Incidentally, I was last on after one of our non-wins around October.
     
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  18. Bronco

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    How would anyone with serious intent of buying Bradford City go on about purchasing the club, would they have to go through Ryan Sparks or would they have access to Rupp only, why would the CEO be involved ?
     
  19. WilsdenBantam

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    Look who's back after a few wins.

    Sorry what do you mean by who is more appealing? Have you mentioned those two specific clubs because we are currently above them?

    If the rumoured price is true, most clubs are more appealing as we are overpriced, no if buts or maybes about it. BTW since Rahic left, I mention him because I bet that was around the time Rupp thought, wtf have I done getting involved in a sport I have no interest in? There have been far more clubs purchased than just those two. I'll mention four purchased in non-league and now currently above us in the pyramid. Wrexham, Stockport, Chesterfield and Notts County. All have owners who actually want to be involved in football, and it is showing that all have better squads than us. York are another under relatively new ownership and don't be shocked if they are above us before long.
     
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  20. Rogered Tart

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    Christ I even saw you on Chesterfields own you tube channel commenting, you wouldn't have been there if we'd got beat.
    As for us not being a great club to purchase part of me agrees with you. Certainly not at the over inflated price Rupp apparently wants (something corroborated by messages I've received over the years) but football is a changing business model as you'll know. Clubs become part of a business portfolio, whether that be as a one off sporting venture or part of a growing brand/feeder club type operation. And as Bradford stand financially, the turnover through ticket sales and off field deals makes us worthy of attention. But as stressed before, it has to be priced right. Probably our best chance of hitting Rupps valuation is to get promoted, hopefully that would see us taken over by someone with a genuine interest in taking the club forward for the long term.
     
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