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Oliver's Scoring Prowess (with Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Jul 24, 2024.

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Oliver

  1. Oliver? Perhaps Kane/Greaves/Rooney/Charlton/Lineker in disguise. Goals galore

  2. Now a cemented Garden Gnome will score more (or not)

  3. I am a weathervane not sure, he could score or not (at confused.com)

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  1. Jan Meijer

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    It isn’t “wrong” though. It is factually correct unless you can provide stats to prove otherwise??

    Even in his last season at Gillingham, he managed just 9 League goals, with just 4 of his goals coming after 1st January (24 games).

    So what you’re really arguing is that we signed him because of the 1 productive season, the season before???
     
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  2. Ulysses S Grant

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    Lets not split hairs, but again you manipulate the figures to suit your narrative. It was 28 league goals in 82 matches, the number of MOTM is irrelevant as we all know that the MOTM is picked based on who, out of two or three people who performed reasonably well in a game, that the sponsors want to meet the most. There is no formula for MOTM and more often than not it's not who the fans would pick.

    Is 14 goals a season a good record for a centre forward ?. Would you be lauding Andy Cook if that's all he ever achieved, you might but 99% of the rest of us wouldn't.

    In three & a half seasons here Andy Cook has scored pretty much the same number of EFL league goals as that lump of wood has scored in his entire 10 plus year EFL career.

    He was signed on the back on one season and even that was bang average.

    You are starting to look like this

     
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  3. Sunnybank

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    Can we take the Oliver stuff to the other thread?
     
  4. Jan Meijer

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    I agree with the sentiments, but one thing we do disagree on was your final statement. 17 league 1 goals in a single season is not (by my definition) “bang average”.

    The issue with Park Bantam is that he ignores the fact that Oliver scored those 17 goals in 20/21 and then reverted to BAU the season after, scoring just 9 league goals. Now THAT is “bang average”, yet we still signed him on a 3-year deal
     
  5. Ulysses S Grant

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    I'll give you that one.
     
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  6. NorthernMonkey

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    I completely agree. I just didn't agree with his posts continually pulling apart an amount of goals, and from a similar type of striker, that his hero struggled to achieve. It's just nonsense.

    Oliver has been very ineffective for us, so he should just say it as it is without resorting to pointing out statistics and making throw away comments that make him look daft.
     
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  7. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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  8. Bigrod

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    The 10 goals in 39 appearances, which is the figure you have posted in that table, is fairly poor. Cook got 17 last season, in the league and 2 more in the EFL cup. Despite lengthy injury and being a midfielder Walker scored 9 last season.
    You’re seriously not saying that is a noteworthy return.
     
  9. Park bantam

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    10 mom a rating way above the rest of his team mates in a relegated side. His overall performance at Gillingham showed why we signed him that’s all I am saying. Not his performances for us. If we signed a striker from league one this week with that record we would be happy
     
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  10. QCFC BANTAM

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    You must have nowt better to do....

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  11. NorthernMonkey

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    You're all massive hypocrites!
     
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  12. JonButterfield

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    10 goals in a season isn't amazing.

    But if you're the best player, despite being a low scoring forward, you're still playing well.

    This is kinda basics, Park is right about Vadaine being a decent signing and we could have expected more if we ever played him - he just ran into Andy Cook on the season of all seasons and Cook hasn't been poor enough to drop ever since.
     
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  13. Sergio Pinto III

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    Oliver scored 10 goals in 43 games 3 years back.
     
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  14. Ulysses S Grant

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    Don't forget the 27 motm awards
     
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  15. Sergio Pinto III

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    Won 7000 headers too
     
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  16. NorthernMonkey

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    In the first half of one game.
     
  17. Park bantam

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  18. Sergio Pinto III

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    4 years back. Absolute shite for us.
     
  19. Ulysses S Grant

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    As has been pointed out to you many many times it was 27 in 82 in the league and 31 in 93 in all games. However you still misquote yourself time and again and end up looking stupid.

    By contrast, Cook has scored almost 50 in the same number of games.
     
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  20. Park bantam

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    And you always ignore the fact that one it was in the league above you also never mention how many assists and how well he played. Don’t know why we are into that again but if we were to sign a league one striker tomorrow with 31 goals in two seasons there wouldn’t be many complaints on here.
     
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