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K Block - Northwest corner - Cheerleaders ...

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by king karl, Aug 17, 2024.

  1. Ulysses S Grant

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    The stupidity started by moving them from the back of the Kop. After that it became impossible to resolve.
     
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  2. AngryGaz

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    They shouldnt be bagged at all but they should be in a section that they can enjoy themselves without being hassled.
     
  3. bantam65

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    I reckon they have enough "bags" between them already tbh.
     
  4. borderlescott

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    The whole situation is a farce and has been waiting to explode since the move was announced.

    FWIW I sit in the NW corner - the block next to the atmosphere lot last season - and the way the club forced us to move seats and didn’t give us priority where to move to when choosing new seats was poor on the clubs part. We ended up getting another spare seat in the front rows, as it happened, as the top tier remains open, just with fewer rows and only the end mini tea bar now open.

    the problem here though is that someone at the club has decided B block is the best place for the atmosphere section. But why was B block specifically picked?

    the club sent our a survey last season asking if the atmosphere section should be moved from the NWC to Kop B block and apparently majority voted in favour of it moving.

    I am putting two and two together and assuming the problem these persistent standers are causing is that they are stood up on the top tier (as they used to do in the Kop) and that causes safety concerns?

    if so, surely the solution should have been to move them into the bottom tier of the TL Dallas stand, which has enough seats to accommodate them. The noise they make is low anyway, people don’t give a damn about it, it’s just fake and cringey. Those manky, rotting flags, used to do my head in, draped over my seat. Used to chuck them back over if they ever ended up near us. At least if atmosphere lot were housed in the Dallas stand they aren’t displacing other home fans?

    you see on the big cup nights our fans will cheer when there is something to cheer about. Most of the time our home league performances are poor, hence the subdued atmosphere.

    Moving the fans to B block was an ill thought out move that has understandably caused problems. Rightly or wrongly, football fans have an attachment to ‘their’ seat. You even see it just for one off cup games. Not me - we’ve moved seats every other year since we dropped out of the Prem, but I understand why some have a routine and a mini community with the same faces sat around them.

    The club seem to have valued trying to keep the ‘noise’ in the Kop over keeping the B block regulars happy - its very poor. B blockers shouldn’t have to move but they’ve been forced to.

    Why are we bending over backwards to please the ‘atmosphere section’ neanderthals? There is not a brain cell between them.

    all this with people getting handed wrist bands etc, it’s just a massive mess.

    the atmosphere lot will continue to stand, just as they did all last season, irrespective of steward intervention. The long-time fans in Block B are entitled to stubbornly stick to their guns, but asking atmosphere lot to sit will continue to cause conflict. The whole mood of the matchday experience will be brought down - creating another bag of bitterness between ourselves because of the poor decision making of whoever decided on this move at the club.

    the irony is the club have just announced the TL Dallas as being a community stand or something? Is that free tickets to local clubs and organisations? Either way its now out of bounds for rehoming the problematic atmosphere lot.
     
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  5. Dennis

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    And accommodated in a section where they don't obstruct the view of other fans who are sitting. (I doubt very much that the occupants of the 'atmosphere' block will be sitting for the entire 90 minutes irrespective of where it's located!)

    Locating them in K Block at the back of the Upper Kop would be an ideal solution for everybody
     
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  6. Birky Bantam

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    The issue if we moved them to the TL Dallas is where do we move them when away clubs bring more than 1,100 and we need that stand for away fans. It's easy to do for the free community tickets as it will be different people each week and they are getting a free ticket so if they don't want to sit in the alternative seat then don't have the ticket, you can also move them at short notice if needed, finding a space for the noise group will be much harder.

    For me this is what happens when the club tries to appease everyone when in reality you can't. I don't really see how this will be resolved if the ground safety authority have got involved and stopped standing in the upper tiers, the only possible place I could think they could go which wouldn't cause issues to people with them standing is Block A in the main stand but I doubt they would want that.
     
  7. chris mac

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    Too many people going to the games and thinking they are at the cinema, don't make any noise, no swearing, don't ever stand up, the young ones are the future, not the moaners and complains.
     
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  8. bantamdave41

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    I have to say my experience in the upper kop wasn't great with 3 new entries besides our group. F**king this, w**Ker that ..spent more time drinking (which was a bonus) but my enjoyment () of the game was somewhat spoilt.

    Personally I can cope with a few profanities but it was excessive but those with youngsters for example, should not have to tolerate.
     
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  9. AngryGaz

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    I am sure there are plenty of seats in the Kop to simply move away from them .............. the club has basically shoved them into a section that we all knew was gonna lead to issues ...........why not simply have them in Kblock when most games its empty up there ??????
    Its yet another fail on the club behalf but hey the way the clubs run wouldnt be decked if they banged them all in C block of the main stand next season
     
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  10. bantamdave41

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    After 6 seasons there, not a chance am I moving. I didn't notice anything in the lower kop so can't comment there but this certainly appears a problem the club have created, which now seems a real issue for them to deal with.

    Gotta say, I feel for the stewards having to deal with.
     
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  11. Edin Nowhere

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    B Block was picked simply because in cup games when all tiers are not open this is where the drum went. That's it, that is basically the selection process for B block. It worked in a cup game when there were 4k in the crowd therefore it must work when there at 16k in the ground appears to be the entire process behind it.

    I sit in H block which is behind the B block on the upper tier and you could seen them all falling out long before half time.

    For what it is worth clearly is sounded loud from where I was sitting just behind them.
     
  12. king karl

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    No matter what folk say they did get the rest of the crowd singing at least a couple of times when we was on the front foot

    There is a place for them ... just not in B block , get them back in K and jobs done
     
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  13. Rogered Tart

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    We could give them a name like K block Bantams or summat....
     
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  14. Rogered Tart

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    When we had the cup game against Hull the other year it created the best atmosphere for ages in the lower kop. Obviously with it being the cup tie the seating arrangements were different so you didn't get the problem with season ticket holders but I certainly think there is a place for it, otherwise it's a lot of people sat down waiting for someone else to take the initiative
     
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  15. Lancaster Bantam

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    I was in Block B row L Saturday I chose this block as I was looking forward to the atmosphere and singing along. I get to a game a month so not a regular by any means due to not living in Bradford anymore. However feel for the fans that have been moved and annoyed with club decisions.
    On arrival at turnstiles given a yellow wrist band with no one explaining what it was for. Get to seat people had green ones and some red so not sure what this was all for. Everyone near us was just confused by it.
    The drum was right behind us and the singing started and then the enjoyment stopped.
    Behind us was 200 plus stone island gang barely any in colours, standing on chairs and standing through whole game in the middle of the block so people behind them not a chance of seeing game from a seat.
    Would have made sense being right at the back of block standing but standing in the middle made no sense at all.
    The bickering and fighting started by half time young lands going at old men and vice versa. Some parents shielding kids along came stewards who are awful chants just started up where Bradford we do what we want.
    The rest of game was just listening on row of disgruntled fans who feel that they haven’t been heard and had no say in this.
    I think next game I will probably chose a different block as some of the gang of youths didn’t look like they were there for football
     
  16. Ulysses S Grant

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    Simple that. Red - you are a real danger to the rest of the crowd and will be first to be ejected, yellow - neutral, not enough known about you, green - safe as houses and can be ignored when it kicks off, even if you are in the middle of it. Call it a form of social selection.
     
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  17. Wakefield Bantam

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    I’m sure it’s impossible to play a drum sat down, but these kind of obvious things seemingly aren’t thought about.
     
  18. Ulysses S Grant

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    John Bonham managed it pretty well.
     
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  19. Wakefield Bantam

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    Agreed. There’s a bloke behind us who can’t utter a sentence without including f****** every 5 seconds. Thankfully he wasn’t there on Saturday - hopefully he hasn’t renewed.
     
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  20. Wakefield Bantam

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    In front of a drum kit yes, not holding a single drum in a heavily populated area of a football stadium.
     

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