Antoni Sarcevic

I totally agree, it is

 

May sound harsh, but I bit as it seems that particular poster seems to try and make a criticism or argument out of any of my posts they reply to. I made a simple suggestion, like a lot of our fans have, that doesn't make me "in the know" where would be a suitable alternative. If training facilities are deemed a priority by the club, then there are plenty of well paid personnel at the club to carry out the due diligence of finding somewhere

 

Why would a simple suggestion of "surely there are other facilities in the region" make me knowledgeable of where they are?? That is a poor assumption on your part. For example, to every single football fan up & down the country saying "we can sign better" (yes yourself included) does that make them a scout and they will know where to find these better players and what their wage demands/availability/circumstances are? No it doesn't

And I stand by my comment regarding ex-employees of the club. I would take their word for gospel any day of the week over what fans are saying/believing on social media. Wouldn't anyone?

 

To be fair to our resident lefty @Offcomedun i've read through his replies and i can't see anything he's said thats wrong Steve. Just gives an opinion that there are no better facilities in the region than Woodhouse Grove. Its not like these facilities grow on trees like crab apples, its a well to do private school with a decent infrastructure, maybe Bradford Grammar has facilities on a par but not with professional football mind.

 

I agree with you on a lot of things Steve but as far as the training facilities go, we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

It was the fact that they replied to my first post - fair enough. But then to reply asking the same question, is just being argumentative and dismisses my first reply to their post. I am not going to repeat myself, that is like being in convo with park bantam

In any case RT, my beef with this person goes back historically to other threads in times gone by. Not sure if thy are critical and argumentative with other posters, but I certainly felt they were being so with me. Who knows - if you say they are a lefty, then maybe something I said previously airing my personal political views or similar has given them a dislike of me?

Just my opinion. I can take other opinions, of course I can, but if I feel needlessly attacked then I will retort

Anyway this thread is being derailed somewhat!

 

Not having a go at you pal, it might be that you two just rile each other up. Funny, I was speaking to a lad who has worked at youth level for a long long time, visited clubs and facilities all over Europe. Said there were better facilities around the lower leagues than ours but did praise the staff at Bradfords youth development as being very good and a pleasure to deal with. A lot of other clubs aren't as accommodating from what he said. His club bought one of our juniors a short while back, paid decent money.

 

I know you aren't mate

That is certainly very good to hear, it is nice to hear praise for those lads behind the scenes, particularly at youth level

 

Our training faciltiies are fine. They weren't an issue in 2013 when we got promoted to league one, or 2015/16/17 when we were fighting for promotion to the Championship

Yes, it is a nice commodity in owning a top class training facility. But it does not guarantee success

Didnt Liecester spend 100m on a new, state-of-the-art training ground a couple of years ago? Look what happened to them. They got relegated a season later. I bet if you asked their fans, they'd of said they would of preffered that money to of been spent on players instead

 

By that analogy no one would ever try and better themselves.

 

Of course we should always try to better ourselves RT, but in my opinion we have bigger priorities at the moment. The starting eleven and buying back the ground for a start. Tbh I'm not sure buying VP is even a possibility but I would have it above building a training ground. All just my opinion of course

 

Regarding the training facilities, like most on here I don't have a clue how they stack up against the other 47 teams in the lower two leagues but if they are adequate then for the time been with have other priorities. I suppose the other question to ask is how much do they cost to rent, I'm presuming the rent is cheaper than the stadium in which case the stadium has to be the priority. As the priority off field has to be getting overheads down, while not decreasing the quality of our facilities. They are currently a milestone round our necks.

 

That's fair comment. I don't see us owning either a stadium or training ground in my life time but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. Even if we did become lucky enough to have access to a state of the art training facility I'd guess we would only be a tenant and not an owner, a facility like that in Bradford would have to of use to other sporting set ups. My comment was more aimed at folk deriding others for building an impressive set up like Leicester. It might be a British way of looking at things, on the continent and beyond infrastructure improvements are a way of life in many countries and not just for football. We seem content to live in the past with a lot of stuff.

 

Steve, a tad harsh old son, in fact a lot harsh. Old pros and managers with an axe to grind…..really? Think what you suggested, think about his reply , think about your final reply .
Have you really fallen for this Stockport County Championship quality training facility makes them Champions of L2 bullshit hook line and sinker, when in fact it’s rented from a rugby club that has nowhere near the quantity and quality of facilities at WHG .

 

I am definitely in the “don’t throw the baby out with the bath water person”. There are lots of things that were good about the past along with all the outdated and of no use stuff. I am all for progress and what makes things better.

 

With all due respect Kev, I can say the exact same thing to you - think about the posts and the previous & subsequent replies....you clearly haven't read the build up before posting your comment have you, and my later explanation as to why I bit? None of my posts have had anything at all to do with Stockport. In fact that is the first of it I have heard!

 

I did read the thread otherwise how do I know what the comments were ? For the record I am more than happy to take criticism, or correction, some is valid, some isn’t. Some I agree with, some I challenge without worry as it’s either wrong, irrelevant or just plain off the wall.
I believe that’s how everyone operates?

 

Supposedly...until they are criticised

 

Im not saying we shouldnt better ourselves, far from it.

What im saying is, There are many things that hold us back. I personally do not think the training facilties are one of those reasons

It's the same training facilities that helped us get promoted to League one, helped us fight for promotion to the championship in two consecutive seasons, helped us on our FA Cup run and on our Carabao Cup run. During this time period, our players would run through brick walls, an we didnt have persistent sick notes in the team, so it's not like our training facilities are negatively impacting our players

If we are in a position, financially an domestically, where we can afford to go out an aquire a brand new training facility, with all the latest technology an we dont have to share it with a school, then by all means, go for it. But this repetitive argument that us not owning it or the facilities are not adequate for us to use is a poor excuse

 

Going down a rabbit hole whilst deflecting from the issue you were challenged upon.