Next manager

You can tell that the players feel it too. My suspicion is that they know that Hughes' tactics, formation and general approach are all wrong, for them, for the division and for the club. I wouldn't mind betting that when Hughes finally goes the deepest sighs of relief will come from the dressing room.

 

How long will you give the next manager six weeks or is that pushing it to much?

 

Hiring and firing isn’t working though I hate Hughes tactics and negativity but the fact is at some stage someone is going to have to be allowed time. At this time our best chance of doing something this season when we are one win from a play off place is to stick with it

 

How much time is enough??
Will you agree it's time for him to go when we are bottom of the league playing in front of 6000 at best
Or when he has finally gone will you say he wasn't the right man
Seriously we don't have time to faff about in the Khazi league crowds are dwindling those that are left are disgruntled
Younger fans the lifeblood of the club in years to come have way more things to do than watch Bradford City on a match day not like in our day
Yes we need consistency at the moment we have it consistently boring !!!
He needs to go the sooner the better

 

78 games in and people still want to give him more chance. silly sods.

 

Fans are very fickle a couple of wins and they are back it’s the reason they buy because they are cheap.8 matches in after assembling a side over the summer is to early to change and to hand another man’s team to another incumbent who will rightly want time by which the season is over. We are in a reasonable position to move up the table there is nothing in it. It’s not the time to gamble

 

I sometimes wonder how accurate stories are that posit the opinion that a manager has 'lost the dressing room'.

You'd kind of think that players would do all they can to not get a manager sacked. Seeing that they're the one that's often brought them to the club and there's no guarantee that whoever the replacement is will want/rate/play them.

I can understand fringe (or dropped) players not being given a place hoping for a change as that might give them the opportunity to play more regularly. But with regular first teamers, you'd think that they'd be better off sticking with the devil that they know. Doing all that they can to keep a manager in a job, rather than hoping that he gets the bullet.

 

In truth Mark Hughes was never the right manager for Bradford City. There was a dazzling element that he should be interested in a fourth tier club. But he always seemed the wrong man for the wrong job, apart from anything else because despite his many years in the game he had no experience of lower league football. Mind I'm aware that those who looked a perfect fit failed too; no better example being Derek Adams.

 

78 games not enough for you to make your mind up then
With the exception of Pattison can you honestly say any of the newer arrivals are capable of being in a promotion winning side let alone are any of those on 2/3 year contracts good enough to keep us in L1
We only finished play offs last season due to a purple patch from Lewis and a freak season from Cook
Hughes single handedly messed that up in the semi finals
Fans can be fickle but they aren't daft they will vote with their feet eventually
A new manager should be able to get some sort of a tune out of the players but going forward it looks bleak under Hughes

 

Looking at the Mark Schwarzer interview, it's easy to see how he couldn't handle the Jake Young situation. On the WYS interviews, he's generally looking at the floor, or into the distance. There's no wonder the players are confused when he's uneasy in front of a group. It's a prerequisite of the job - communication.

 

That would be a dream team for us wouldn't it, as long as Stuart was the number 2

 

6 weeks?. Hughes has had 18 months and we are currently in a worse position now than when he arrived

 

And like it or not and I know it wasn’t pretty we reached the play offs the minimum expected

 

If he did go, I've seen some fans online saying we couldn't afford to pay him off but I don't get why?

Might be worth noting, but listening to a Peterborough chairman podcast a few seasons back, I think it was around the time that us and them had recent sacked a boss, he had an email question around paying off a manager once you sack them. He explained that over recent years, most clubs have changed manager contracts to help clubs save some money. I think it was when he sacked Evans that he was describing, that what some clubs like there's do when they hire a manager is to lay out in the contract terms the termination fees depending on performance. So if they wanted a top 7 finish and the club were 12th-15th, they only paid 80% of the remaining contract, lower the position, the lower the payment percentage. It was becoming a norm in lower league football to help clubs save some cash if they want a change due to poor performance.

You also don't sack them and pay out a lump sum, you just keep paying the contract until the end date. Or, you pay them until they take a new job. Once that manager signs another contract for their next club, they waive their right to the owed money from their recently sacked contract. Like when we sacked Adams, we barely paid any more of his salary as he had a return at Morecambe within no time.

 

Yes he did but blew it with his negative tactics against Carlisle and the bewildering substitution of Banks.

All that was needed this summer was 3 or 4 quality additions and I would have expected automatic promotion.

I was impressed with the capture of Alex Pattison but that was it. Nobody else has come in and improved the squad. All we got was another load of fillers and a baffling change of tactics and like I say we are now worse off in terms of quality and league position.

 

I'd bet a lot of money that Warnock will sit around until early next year either for a Championship club to be in the relegation fight and sack their manager then he can take the job with a nice survival bonus or a top end league 1 club sack their manager either in the play offs or just outside.

 

And !!!!
He failed again due to his risk averse mindset
You may as well finish 20th as lose in the play offs
History books will show season 23/24 we were a L2 club
We failed to get promoted

 

If any person is sacked, whilst under contract, they have a duty to mitigate the loss to the former Employer. Adams did this, but probably on lower remuneration at Morecambe. Unless stipulated in his contract to the contrary, I think we would have been contractually obliged to make up the difference.

 

That's what I'm saying above, as of about 2018/2019ish, most lower league clubs were putting clauses in to cover theirs backs a bit in case of a sacking where they had an agreement in the contract to pay a percentage if the sacking was due to poor performance so they can save a bit of cash in the long term.

But the other bit is a rule enforced by the FA and in agreement with the LMA that a manager if he is sacked, still gets paid until the end of his deal or until he accepts another role, whichever ends first. So if say Hughes was sacked tomorrow and we have him under contract until June, he'd still get his usual monthly wage until June. But if in March he accepted another role, City would no longer need to pay him those remaining months. If I remember rightly it was a rule that managers can't be under two contracts at once. MacAnthony explained a sacking like basically you place the manager on a sort of gardening leave until the end of their deal or they sign elsewhere.