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Stefan Rupp

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Onside, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Bantamsteve

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    Agree
    But Rochdales pitch last Saturday was perfect and the old adage it's the same for both teams must still apply
     
  2. Onside

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    All interesting stuff. I can understand the upset, but do you let that rule what you do with your business. Rupp is also wrong, we are not a bunch of racists oiks, and I am offended by being lumped in with a few who are. Don’t they have racism in Germany? I am sorry they have been offended, I really am, but you don’t walk away you deal with the problem.

    The investors at Wembley, well that it understandable, they would want to invest in successful clubs.

    Rupp made the decision to sack McCall, due to not winning the key games. I strongly suspect he hasn’t got over the humiliation at Wembley and in front of investors he had invited. Welcome to our world Rupp. He was the one that kept going on he was he for the duration, yea right. Only as long as he doesn’t get upset.

    They both need to understand, football is not a party every day, you need to have staying power, not keel over that the first serious hurdle.
     
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  3. Parader

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    I don't think there's much need to wonder.
     
  4. Briggus

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    Hmmm - so a so called canny business man based a decision for investment - on the action a small amount of immature numpties who are not representative of the other 18k+ fans. I would say the two owners have a lot to learn on the English footie business / game and the word "canny" might be too generous.
    Why would Rupp be embarrassed by City's result at Wembley there were only 3 clubs more successful in The Div 1 and we only lost to one goal that has an element of luck for Millwall. The fact they cannot defend or sell the club to other investors is a little worrying.
    The jury is out and hopefully they will be able to steer the city ship to success and an improved 18/19 season - every one needs a second chance.....
     
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  5. Dennis

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    You make some good points.

    I said last summer that I expected McCall to be sacked after the play-off final because he wasn't the manager to get us promoted through the playoffs themselves. And I have serious doubts that we would ever have the quality and size of squad which would get us promoted in one of the automatic spots. We would need more money and a different strategy to achieve that within the three year plan. But I believe that the owners bottled it at the time and should have been more ruthless. None of us know what the relationship is between Rupp and Rahic and how the dynamics work. Maybe Rupp does feel let down by Rahic and he's been sold a pup. I doubt that we'll ever know the real situation. But at the end of the day, they have both invested money in buying our club (not equally I understand) and should be making the proper business decisions to protect their investment. But at the moment I'm still of the view they have jointly under-estimated the effort needed to get out of this division.

    It's not good practice in any business to piss off the guy the content of whose pockets will be so influential in our short term success. And I doubt it was intended. But if as you say, they are of the belief that we are racist oiks then that is very disappointing. I'm sure some are and have demonstrated that. But I doubt that the vast majority of fans are so minded. I hope that somehow Rupp's mindset can be changed because without him at the moment our club is in a mess.
     
  6. Parader

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    Rupp's investment in City is small change to him, if it comes off it comes off, if not it isn't going to make much of a dent, he was sold a dream and was happy to go along with it as it couldn't ruin him if it doesn't pay off- it's Rahic who holds all the risk.
     
  7. Briggus

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    Probably is small change as you say and it is up to him how he spends - his fortune - but I think the owners especially Rupp needs to step up to the plate as far as City are concerned based on the last two seasons.
     
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  8. Onside

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    Well he might be able to afford it, but this club cannot. He was sold a dream? Did that dream include blood sweat and tears and seriously hard work? I did notice he enjoyed all the pitch celebrations and Wembley. I do hope he finds some determination from somewhere for the sake of our club. If he is not happy with Edin the answer is in his own hands.
     
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  9. Mike Hunt

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    The Hitler video was always going to upset Germans. They hear, and understand the words he’s ranting and not the subtitles. Germans are very sensitive to Nazism and the 1930’s and 40’s. They’ll look at their feet at the mention of anything war related. They’re so embarrassed by it in the US I’ve seen Germans claim they’re Austrian and not German, even though Hitler was Austrian. It’s really not funny to a German.
     
  10. Onside

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    Look I get all that. When I was a child we weren’t even allowed to talk about Hitler, and any person caught using the Nazi salute would find themselves in serious trouble. I can understand the embarrassment, but they have responsibilities to the majority of fans who are not racists, or xenophobic idiots. We are probably not as sensitive to the Hitler parody as we should be. Is that a reason to turn your back on the club?
     
  11. Parader

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    Indeed.

    When potential German investors/sponsors find the kind of things posted by our fans across social media associated with the club they are going to run a mile, and who can blame them?
     
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  12. Mike Hunt

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    I’m not defending them, but I don’t think they do have a responsibility to anyone other than themselves. Morally maybe, but legally no. If Rupp can gamble £4m, as he has, then to him it’s a sunk cost. Gone. What he does from here on is a new decision. He can throw another £4m in and hope to get some back, and that’ll take a promotion and more investment to stay up, or he can say feck it, if they don’t want our ways, I’ve only spunked a season’s racing up the wall, if I get any back at all it’s a bonus.
     
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  13. Plastic Bantam

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    So we’ve decided that it’s fact Rupp wants out and he’s called us all racists
     
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    Just because one person has posted what he’s heard doesn’t mean it’s all true.. not saying it’s not by the way however it seems now whatever someone says that’s slightly negative towards the owners then it must be true..


    all we really know is we tried buying players in Jan and for whatever reason failed.

    The players decided to just go on holiday from January for reasons no one actually knows but from what’s being said they weren’t happy with Edin.. Although to me that’s not a valid excuse from a set of professionals

    The owners tried to sign Grayson to a 2 year deal (which I imagine won’t have been cheap)


    Now we have 4 games left and after that we will have a better idea of where we as a club are heading with the actions of the club.

    Personally I will reserve judgement till then. They’re not stupid they will know they have to get this right if they want their investment to pay off getting relegated to league 2 isn’t the way to do it.

    So let’s stop assuming all the negative hear say is instantly the gospel truth.. I’m not saying rumours shouldn’t be spoken about (before anyone says I am) but let’s just remember they’re exactly that rumours!!
     
  15. Briggus

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    I think you a generalizing the social media is a platform for a small minority of City fans that spouted out some immature and unnecessary abuse - that is what they need to get their heads around
     
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  16. Bronco

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    I don't think there is much there that surprises many poster on here, he is hardly a football man and he basically said himself his investment was worth the gamble, not something I like to hear from the money man of the pair of owners.

    The vitriol that accompanied the McCall sacking took Rupp aback, well for me he obviously doesn't understand the term "Legend" maybe he should have asked any Bradford City fan why we held Stuart McCall in such high esteem.
    There were things posted that were totally uncalled for I agree, but again he is not a football man so maybe he doesn't fully understand the emotional connection we fans have with our club (that does not mean it's open season to call them despicable names).
    He is the man with the money and will do what he feels fit, but I'll repeat the comment from any chairman that "his investment was worth the gamble" does not fill me with confidence, and if he feels so badly done by make it known he would be more than happy to take offers to sell his club, because it is his club.
     
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    I do remember, foolishly, checking the #bcafc tag on twitter after transfer deadline day. It was vile. It may have been a minority, but there was a dominant theme of vitriol extending into xenophobia and anti-German sentiment.

    I've got German family and friends , and I've talked at length with them about the Nazi legacy and how that has been lived with in Germany. Purely based on what I know of my family, I don't think we can dismiss the impact of how frustration with the owners has been communicated.
     
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  18. Onside

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    Well I think he does. We have heard talk from both of them that this club is part of the community and it is working class, and they want the club to be part of that,and one of the reasons they chose us. Of course he can walk away and find excuses to do just that, but he would be shirking his responsibility to this club and our city. So either all of that was just crap to pacify the fans supporters, or they do actually mean business, if they do you take on your responsibilities and do your utmost to make it work. Nobody is asking him to blow his millions on our club, but he now needs to ask himself this question. What do I want to do now? Why am I here? Simple. Things have no doubt changed since his original decision to invest.
     
  19. Bronco

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    You are correct @Mike Hunt@Mike Hunt I can understand that some of the comments (maybe in jest) could cause them embarrassment, but there were several Hitler video's doing the rounds around the time of us beating Arsenal and Villa and to be fair (given the content) they were quite funny, especially the stuff "Brummy Dave" posted, but as you say the recent video was in poor taste.
     
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  20. Nick_W_

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    Facebook was just as bad (If not worse) It is definitely a minority of City fans, it didn't come across that way on social media though, let's face it that's all he will of seen, unfortunately.
     
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