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Rahic Interview

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Nick_W_, May 18, 2018.

  1. Bronco

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    Fair comment there are no guarantees in football, we were having a hard time as a club and to be fair the owners didn't back the manager, even though they claim deals were almost done.
    I accept it's been done to death but given we had 4 new signings coming in even though they were only loans there is no doubt the likes of Guy, Warnock, Lund (once he was fit) did make a difference not enough to get us back to winning ways and in with a chance of a play off place, maybe giving Stuart another month or so wouldn't have been a disaster, forgetting the lad McGown who looked the best of them all but unfortunately got injured.
     
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  2. Park bantam

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    League champs on 100 points 19 points clear.
    I doubt they'd be in that position if they sold all their "expensive risky signings" and replaced them with bargain basement youth team rejects.[/QUOTE]
    Where are MK and Bury
     
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  3. Park bantam

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    It should have been nipped in the bud by the manager who’s job it is to manage the players. Losing young Hendry shouldn’t mean the team giving up. Couldn’t of imagine it happening under Clough and he had some almighty battles with owners
     
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  4. Petrov

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    Yes, McGowan looked a really good signing and if he hadn't got injured, maybe we might have sneaked a few more wins and then who knows what could have happened? So luck definitely plays a part in proceedings as well, both in terms of injury but also in terms of unearthing unexpected gems.
    If one lesson genuinely has been learned though, I hope it is that they now realise that on the whole, January is a shit time to go shopping for footballers and they need to concentrate most of their energy on summer targets and make more use of the loan market in January because like you say, Guy, Warnock and Lund did a pretty solid job for us without costing too much.
    I also agree that if they had kept McCall until the end of the season it wouldn't have been a disaster and maybe, just maybe, he might have turned things around. (Put it this way, I don't think we would have finished any lower down the table with Stuart still at the helm).
     
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  5. Park bantam

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    Interesting one that Parky to his credit didn’t like it and left. McCall came in under the same circumstances and after agreeing the same deal said he was happy with it. Then we were told after his first seasons he wasn’t but wouldn’t leave. The acid test will be the relationship with the next coach
     
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  6. Bronco

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    So why do you think it is only the responsibility of the managers, don't we keep hearing "we are a team we win together we lose together" yet it's McCall's responsibility, nah we saw Grayson couldn't stop the rot so I would say that particular situation went far further than the manager and was a collective responsibility.

    Different times as you know, and yes Cloughy had a habit of upsetting chairmen, but hardly a good comparison.

    Clough's honours:
    Whilst at Derby County :
    Football League First Division 1971-72,
    Football League Second Division 1968-69.

    Whilst at Nottingham Forest :
    Charity Shield 1978-79,
    European Cup 1978-79, 1979-80,
    Football League First Division 1977-78,
    Full Members Cup 1988-89, 1991-92,
    League Cup 1977-78, 1978-79, 1988-89, 1989-90,
    Promotion to Football League First Division 1976-77.

    Whilst at Leeds United :
    44 days won now't :D.
     
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  7. Bronco

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    Yes up to a point fair comment the BIG difference being Phil Parkinson did'nt let his heart rule his head and maybe saw through what was being asked of him, and as you say told Edin thank you but no thank you.
    Where as we all know where Stuart McCall held his club, he might say it was not an emotional decision but most would think different, I don't get why he should have walked he had another 12 moths contract, you've been in business in that situation would you have asked your production manager to leave giving you an easy get out when customers (fans in our case) said Stuart did a great job last season getting Bradford City to the Play off Final strange that he upped and walked not have another job lined up, where was the owners collective decisions there, never being an owner of a company but I would have thought the owner would be the very man who makes those sort of calls ?.

    But that doesn't explain your anti employees comment, Edin and McCall worked together for around 18 months and during that time we were in the top 6 around 17 months now if that is being anti the way the club wants to go it would be interesting to know your view on a pro employees achievements, Edin could have left him in the hot seat until the end of the season and it was pretty well know McCall was not getting another contract, so not a lot to lose, as he said in this interview he wanted to be in a position to compete in the Championship rather than tread water, so listening to that it would suggest to me he was not bothered we did not get promoted.
     
  8. bantamlad92

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    This seems like:

    - Rahic has rehearsed his answers 50 times over to questions which are agreed and pre determined.
    - Edin goes off on a tangent with his rehearsed answers to questions which aren’t even relevant to what he’s spouting (when asked if there are any surprising names who have expressed interest, keeps banging on about raising value of younger players).

    Comes across like he is trying too hard to blag his nonsense across to gullible supporters.
     
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  9. Ulysses S Grant

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    Like the fact the only thing they actually owned was a bic biro, an A4 pad and James Hanson
     
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  10. Ulysses S Grant

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    Ultimately we actually brought in four players in January who were better than what we had. McGowans injury was a massive blow and Stuart misused both warnock and guy
     
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  11. Ulysses S Grant

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    Stuart knew exactly what he’d bought into
     
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  12. Petrov

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    I thought it had been confirmed the bic biro was just a rumour?
     
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  13. Telesto

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    I thought the interview was great and that Edin spoke well.
    The idea of doing regular interviews like that in a fairly relaxed way to get his message out and inform the fans is a superb idea.
    I'm not sure the "Bonus" style wage structure will attract the quality of players we need for promotion though.

    I can't remember Stefan Rupp being mentioned once. It would have been nice to hear about his commitment (or otherwise) of personally investing in the Club. I guess that answers its own question.

    Summer will determine if we can get a balance of "experience and youth" I think "quality" might be more of a problem.
    Attempting to entice players to play for BCAFC by saying
    "We'll pay you low wages and if you're good we'll sell you and you'll get loads of money elsewhere" ..... :eek:
    .....is quite frankly shocking as a fan and probably as a player too. Did I understand that correctly?

    Lets just hope his methods work to get promotion. We'll see.
     
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  14. Rogered Tart

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    You are assuming McCall agreed to work under the same circumstances that Parkinson turned down, but you don't really know. You seem to placing no emphasis whatsoever on the fact that McCall was arguably the biggest legend this club had ever had and who had stated he would love to manage City again as he had unfinished business. To simply dismiss this is foolhardy. McCall later stated he had reservations and probably should have refused but i cannot think of another player in this country who has a bigger emotional attachment to a football club than Stuart and Bradford City. Honestly, after seeing what went on behind the scenes last season i don't think any other manager would have got this anywhere near the playoffs and Stuart can hold his head high at doing so well under such circumstances.

    That being said, and i very rarely agree with you, one thing i am in agreement with is that Rahic has to pick a coach who understands that Rahic is running the whole show. What he says goes. He has a method strategy that may or may not work, but stands a better chance of working if management staff are all singing off the same hymn sheet. There's no hiding behind differences with McCall though if it goes tits up like it did since January, the next coach is Rahic's baby and he is now responsible for this teams success or demise.
     
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  15. Park bantam

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    He should have left if he wasn’t happy with the way the club was being run instead of lots of cryptic quotes.
     
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    One thing i will credit Rahic for is getting cold hard cash for Hanson. Like winning a massive poker hand with 10 high.
     
  17. Park bantam

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    He didn’t actually say that he said it could be great for younger players to progress and get their name out their for big money moves in the future. Remember if the rumoured budget is true and it’s say 2.5 million unsubstantiated it could nearly double with bonuses if the club does well the players do well
     
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  18. Bronco

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    We'll agree to disagree.
     
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  19. Bantamsteve

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    Great post
    As well as Rupp not being mentioned neither was James Mason
    Greg seems to be the golden boy at the moment (still think he will end up as " head coach")
    Summer will determine a lot of things as will the choice of new head coach
    How can any up and coming superstar turn down such a fabulous contract offer
    No hiding what are ambitions are now and how we are going to achieve them
     
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  20. Petrov

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    I can understand why you might interpret it that way but I think what Edin is trying to say is we will pay a fair wage for this level (which at the end of the day lets not forget is third tier football), with the chance to earn considerably more through bonuses if players perform well. I'm not sure whether what he says about there being more scouts coming to Valley Parade because we have bigger crowds is true or even if it would be a selling point that would convince a player to choose us over another club.
     
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