Rahic Interview

Well if we ask them to, why would they? They are suitable for what they need them for but probably not suitable for a professional football club training on them. I’d say we are footing the bill

 

Think it’s time to get behind the chairman’s watching the interview can see rahcic cares just as much as us fans the things they are planning looks like it’s gonna be very good for the club hopefully with warborton in charge we can have a great next season

 

Not true. They'll get plenty of credit off me if things work out and i'll accept my misgivings were wrong. But the atmosphere has changed, the stu sacking, the clearly weird appointment of grayson and then him deciding our club isn't one getting promotion anytime soon, so choosing to leave. The influx of decidedly average german signings - what's that about? I'll accept the long term but lets be realistic and honest - trying to appoint grayson is at odds with that plan, and we'd be much better just facing facts that promotion may well be off the cards in the near future without significant cash investment in the squad. Don't try and dress it up differently.

 

That's probably the best synopsis of the twitterverse I've read..

 

Edin seems to think that the following will be integral to our success:

•Coaching

•Development

•Team harmony.

As I've mentioned before, all footballers get coached and developed and probably have been doing since the sport began. Yet, because he keeps mentioning it a section of our fans think it's some sort of master plan and that we should all get behind it. Unless other players don't get coached and look to improve themselves (highly unlikely) we're literally the same as every other league club in that regard. As for team harmony, that's strongly linked with results. The team harmony isn't going to be great if we lose 10 on the trot. What's the best way to pick up results? Bring in the best players. And how is that going to be achieved? You provide a good budget and yet, he seems to completely overlook that and keeps citing Shrewsbury as an example of what can be achieved on minimal resources. Shrewsbury are the exception rather than the rule and if they budget is as low as it gets made out to be there are far more examples of teams getting relegated with similar fiannces than there are going up.

Arguably the biggest problem here isn't even his model and how he wants to implement it, it's the fact that he actually rates our current squad. We were the worst performing team in the entire decision over the last 20 games of the season, these things have got to be taken seriously. Most of us accept that we need a major overhaul, not Edin though, our defence which was statistically one of the worst performing in the league is "good" and we'll just bring in dross and develop them. Why has nobody else thought of this?

 

Actions speak louder than words and the owners haven't done any actions for fans to support.

Knowledgeable fans know that what they want to do won't get us far and pomotion. At this moment we will more than likely end up in the bottom 4 rather the top 4.

The owners need to spend money and plenty of it. When they do that then we can talk about backing them. Until then think about Bradford City because these owners could be the death of this football. Pair of jokers.

 

Rahic seems fixated with this 3rd position in January. I don't want to blow smoke up my own arse but i'm gonna anyway. A group of us from another parish ( The Cows Arse, great read by the way) had been saying all along that this squad had no chance of hitting the playoffs, it was clear going to most of the games home and away that we were riding our luck, chances created and goals scored by the law of the stats we were in a false position. A pathetically small first team squad packed out with development squad players, poor recruitment, behind the scenes infighting, it was a wonder McCall kept us up so high for so long.
Not to take away from the off field things such as pitch investment and new ticketing systems, thats welcome as any improvements are, but that first team needs investing in too. And i don't mean a load of development players, it needs strengthening with decent league 1 standard footballers. Get the right balance, you only need 3 or 4 quality signings to raise the standard of the team and the players we have here already will raise their game. If we are not careful we could end up like another Crewe, they were in our division a few years ago but look where the reliance on their development squad got them. And theirs is one of the better ones.
The lesson for Rahic here is don't neglect that first team squad or it will bite you on the arse.

 

Yes I noticed that although I think he did get a mention early doors. When he kept going through his most trusted lieutenants James was conspicuous by his absence. As you say definitely places high value on the input of Greg. We must be careful our observations aren't the seeds for the dreaded social media gossip mind.

 

Yes so in other words its my way or the highway, I agree up to a point if you don't buy into their way you can go but you and Edin quote the people around him know more than him which you would expect James being in the job 5 or so years and Abbo being a manager/coach and player all his adult life, now heres were I disagree if they see that the route they are taking is wrong in their opinion he should take that onboard rather than your " buy into it or leave".
We have seen many clubs struggle because the owners had a different vision with no experiance of the job in hand, Im sorry @Inspector I have to say it again they bought into our club because of past successes and the way it had been previoulsy run although they said they wouldn't change things they did exactly the opposite and this suggests to me they think they know better.

 

Totally agree. Can't see us getting promoted for 5-10 years.......I just hope the next promotion is not out of league 2.

 

Shrewsbury's budget for 16/17 was £3.5 million which is a decent budget for league 1, would easily put them mid top half of the table. They also identified the right manager in Paul Hurst and had to pay a large fee to get. Couple that with the £1 million investment in their training facilities and its clear they are a well run club that are prepared to back their manager.

 

All managers we're linked with are out of work. Says it all really. We don't even want to pay compo for a manager.

 

Its been discussed many time on here about buying the ground back if nothing else he seems to have put that to bed, but the main part Im alluding to was his comment about Championship being the 5th biggest money generator that when I would have expected the two guys doing the interview to point out it my be a goid generator of finance but it is also a loss maker for the majority of Championship clubs, some on he would have quicky pointed that out, he got an easy ride because the two lads had not done their homework to counter Edins reply.

 

I think the £3.5m including all salaries, non playing staff too.

However, you would envisage this season being higher. They'll have easily a top half budget for this season.

 

Think the learning curve on attracting new players may have to be re visited
Players through the nature of the length of playing(earning) time appear mercenary
Paying half the wage in bonuses to my mind is not going to attract the caliber of players needed to our humble club
The credence of playing for Bradford City has sadly dropped
So we have to pull something out of the bag to attract such players or just hope we can bring a full team of youngsters through a good yardstick to this will be to see if Doyle re signs

 

Doyle's signature is a good point. I'd expect his agent is looking for the best offer for his player and after the season he has had and being in the ROI squad i would expect some discrepancy between City's offer and what his agent is looking for.

 

Good Point
Why change a winning formula
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Have been trotted out many times on here
If they wanted to completely change the way a club is run they should have bought a failing L2 club then see how much they 'know football"
For the last 2 years we have lived off the hard work done by the previous owners Parky/Stuart now that's all gone it's time to stand up and be counted
I really hope they succeed

 

Do they? Really? They pay for youth players education at something like a £15k a year school? Really? I find that hard to believe.

Are you able to find a link to this info?

But, even if they do do it, we NEVER have, so wouldn’t it be a good idea to keep up with the Jonesey’s?

 

A lot of non league clubs hook up with local colleges these days. They can access funding for the education and do the football training daily too.

I think Ilkeston have a very good set up. They've had several get snapped up by league clubs.

Che Adams came through their system, to Sheffield United then a £2m move to Birmingham. 70 Championship appearances in the last 2 seasons.

 

Of course his agent will be looking for the best deal which I can't see being ours am afraid
He is an international goalkeeper and should command a good wage
This in my opinion will go a long way in shaping our season