Rahic in today's T and A

They did, a show of hands as we were sat at the front we didn't turn around but they said the majority voted do the pitch.

 

What do you expect some of us more 'realistic' fans (usually described as 'happy clappers' ) to class you as? Realistic? It isn't. Your basing your negativity on something not known. I wonder what Cardiff fans thought 18 months ago just before Warnock joined - probably had the same moans, but at least they had justification given that they were in the bottom three

How did they fail to support the manager? In January, every effort was made to make the signings - we were no more unsuccessful than our rivals and brought in, what turned out three very good players - McGowan, Warnock and Guy plus tow OK ones. Or do you think McCall should have been allowed to carry on after losing 9 out of 10? Or do you think that Grayson should airily make demands that could jeopardise the club's finances?

That's what I mean by moaning. Whatever the board do, no matter even if it's in the best long term interests of the club, i.e. won't risk financial damage - some of you simply don't like it. You feel you were promised a sugar daddy and they've reneged.

In my opinion everyone needs to get over it, reset their own ambitions and carry on supporting this great club with optimism as it's only that attitude that ever gets a team going forward (and yes, of course a club has to give the fans something to feed on)

We don't even know who our coach is going to be or what players he's bring in, but you've already decided it's rubbish.

I wouldn't care, if the criticism was valid but the youngster policy has worked at plenty of other clubs - but it takes years, so to slate it now or moan it won't work or moan that it's hit and miss is pointless ranting.

It was laughable that Exeter's system was getting praise on here (mainly so we could knock the board in an article for the 72nd time) without realising it's take 10 years for it to be a roaring success and five to start the conveyor belt going

But it's the only realistic model for us. Let's look at the facts. It could be that the three relegated clubs bounce back up. In the last couple of seasons relegated Millwall and Barnsley have spent two years down here, before the Championship change in their pockets inevitably made a difference (incidentally they would not be in the 20 teams I'm classing that has similar budgets). Bolton bounced back up at the first attempt. There's only MK Dons who've failed

We've simply had it good for the last few years and a significant number of fans cannot face the fact that the future might a few years of 8th to 14th

So what if it is? Is oceans better than any of the duff served up from 2004 to 2012 (apart from that wonderful start to the relegation season, perhaps!!)

 

Maybe they were lying because you couldn't see?..
I think they have pulled the wool over your eyes dave..

"bad doggies!"

 

I'll be seeing what happens and if Brunker is suddenly the player we're building a team around, I'll be the first to have a rant about how the owners are dragging us down . He is an impact player at best and could be very useful for that, but definitely not a starter - unless of course he improve some more

 

McClean. Well researched signing .Moreover, I bloody believed in him long after I should have known better

 

No I questioned it with @Ricc and @P Neshead who were at the rear of the seating and they both confirmed it was a big majority, which as I said surprised me, the pitch was bad without doubt be for me if there is any money to be spent it has to be on the first team squad.

 

Yeah there was a lot that chose pitch. which amazed me no end. I didn't vote, neither did I vote in the poll on C&B someone put up the day after.

the pitch was a disgrace and needed work, but at the expense of first team players? not for me.

 

Great post. Just about sums up my feels spot on.

 

I heard it from Edin’s own words at the 25yr ST meeting. He stated how many clubs in the Championship gamble, I think he said 80% ?? He then quoted how many millions on average they gamble. He was incredulous. He thought it was crazy. He then went on to say he would n’t pay a player 8k a week just so he could play good one week and shit the next. He sounded like an account which of course he is. He definitely believes in his own philosophy and won’t rest until it works or fails.

Coincidently I had heard GR say similar about throwing money away during our first season in the PL. At the time he quoted West Ham who went big to try and get out of trouble. They succeeded and that just might have been the catalyst for our own 6 weeks of madness. Edin won’t make the same mistake.

 

But Rahic wants pretty, expansive, tippy tappy football so needs a snooker table surface to produce it.
We can't play like Barcelona on a quagmire.

The fans who complain would be the first up in arms if we got beaten every week on a pitch that makes the Baseball ground(one for the oldies) seem like Old Trafford.

Seriously though, the money should be balanced across the piece but if it's taking a large chunk to ensure a good playing surface then that's what it has to be. Can't do nothing about it.

 

Spot on - I agree with this completely & expect it to get shouted down quickly and loudly as its far too sensible...

 

I have to admit I haven’t read all of that, but then I don’t need to do I? I get you don’t like alternative opinions to yours. I will leave you to it, yes I could trade posts with you, but I really can’t be bothered. The ONLY thing thing I will say, I want City to succeed as I have always done.

 

But he kind of has a point in been incredulous. Is it doing Norwich, Leeds, Forest, Sheff Wed, etc any good? - it's probably making sure they don't get relegated but their short term strategy has been shown up by the better ones at Town, Burnley, Brighton, Preston and Brentford

I don't believe it's 80%. Clubs like Brentford are quite frugal compared to some

 

You're a scream. Yes, I'm on these boards because I don't like other peoples opinions

Ask Bronco and John how many times we've had a heated debate - but we do respect each others views even when disagreeing

Sorry you feel this way and agree with the last sentence

 

Is that so?

Because according to this...

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/national/football-finance-championship-club-by-club-2015-16

Brentford have the join highest wage-to-income ratio of 166% - meaning they are the joint LEAST frugal club in the Championship!

 

If we get into the championship and fight a relegation battle every season what would you fans that are moaning now think about it? Or Would you rather we had a few seasons in league 1 whilst we built a decent squad that could compete in the championship like Millwall. I don't like the way the owners have gone about their business but unfortunately they are here to stay and I would rather see us try build for the future than have them put the club in danger buy throwing money we don't have at a promotion push like Bury and end up with nothing. Remember who won the race between the tortoise and the hare.

 

it's all well and good not spending any money, and ensuring we're sustainable and these other accountant buzz words, but we'll just end up at the level of Crewe Alexandra.

I don't see the problem with carrying on as we were, we were hardly going to go bust under Mark Lawn and Rhodes.

 

Maybe if you did read it then you'd understand that's all he wants too. It's just a differing of opinion.

 

I might be way off the mark but Peterborough seem the most successful league 1 club running a similar model with success of high value player sales and yet are still in league 1. Proving that even if successful it doesn’t guarantee success on the pitch. Don’t know the ins and outs of the model but I just don’t understand the aim of the owners plans.

 

But the decent squad will end up leaving because they can double their wages somewhere else. Then you have to try and build a new team in the Championship with a budget that won't compete.