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England matches discussion.

Discussion in 'General Football' started by TallinnBantam, Jun 19, 2026.

  1. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter

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    Blxxdy thrown it away. Got the goal and stop playing. Gutted
     
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  2. ericctid

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    I'm gutted. Always find a way to bottle it don't we.
     
  3. Biker

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    That was rubbish after the 1st goal. Had been coming and he doesn't do a thing other than bring the likes of Dan Burn on and tell them all to defend the 6 yard box.
     
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  4. Tennesseebantam

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    I suppose it depends on if you take the Carlisle view or the Swindon view. I know it worked against Mexico but inviting pressure on with people like Messi pulling strings is a bit odd.
     
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    Argentina actually had more headed opportunities after he went all defensive.
     
  6. Offcomedun

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    Shocking management from Tuchel, surrendering the midfield and sitting back so early. Argentina aren’t Mexico. No way were we ever going to repel wave after wave of attacks for over forty minutes. Madness.
     
  7. Edin Nowhere

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    Full on Mark Hughes mode after going a goal up.

    Platt for Banks, meet Gordon for Konsa.

    We were lucky to hold on as lomg as we did sat on our 18 yard line, how many warning did we need.

    Tuchel has done good for us but we let Southgate go to avoid tactics like that.

    Imagine seeing Messi and thinking, lets give him all the time and space he wants on the ball.
     
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  8. Bigrod

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    Well England shot themselves in the foot. TBVF Argentina became the best team. We surrendered the initiative and having six defenders was inviting them to come forward. They are Errrrr known to score goals.
     
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  9. SimonW

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    I've been saying what a fecking useless piece of shit Tuchel is all along and today just confirmed it. I don't have a problem with going defensive but its the subs that had absolutely no tactical thought put into them. It's something you expect from a 5 year old not supposedly a world class manager.

    Harry Kane is a waste of space when playing like this, he gets too deep, is too slow so can't get up if we do break and on the occasions he does stay up he never really wins the ball. We needed an outlet. Of the players we had on the field when subs started Gordon is the most likely to offer that but he was taken off.

    You also need FB's to get out. James and Spence weren't doing that good enough. (After a great first half Spence was awful in the second, he kept switching off). And then when James got injured we bring on another FB but play him in midfield and have a CB in the FB position where they are even less naturally inclined to close down giving easy crossing opportunities.

    And then there was bringing on all the CB's and taking off midfielders. Rather than having too lines of defence we ended up with one and a massive hole to be exploited. If we still had Rice on or if Rice had to come off say Mainoo we would have had a second line that could have mopped up some of the balls and certainly got out quicker and more ability to transition into a counter

    Having so many CB's on actually pushed us so deep they couldn't even do their job either. Argentina are a small side but our CB's were so deep that these fairly small players could get a decent run on them while they were jumping from a standing position so they were winning headers they shouldn't have.

    Oh and I assumed I had miscounted and we had used all our subs. Why did he only bring Toney and Rashford on when we conceded the second when we needed to relieve some pressure with an outball?

    Tuchel screwed the squad up from the off , misused the squad he did take and then spent the tournament getting lucky and dragged out of trouble by key players all while apart from the first game his subs didn't actually work (people raved about Mexico but his subs had the same issues as today, it invited too much pressure, gave us no outlet and we got lucky)
     
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  10. Edin Nowhere

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    Btw, I counted 4 times they played the short corner routine to Messi that led to the goal and everytime we let them do it.
     
  11. TallinnBantam

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    I think now England have been knocked out, we’ll see some more news from the club as attention turns back to proper football again.
     
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  12. SimonW

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    Ok the Argies should be kicked out of the tournament. They got away when they were caught singing Falklands songs and now they have been going around with a banner about it. But ofc FIFA won't because they want to gift Herr Messi another World Cup
     
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  13. Park bantam

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    To be fair Spence took a knock for the second goal and couldn’t get out to Messi
     
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  14. SimonW

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    He wasn't getting out before the knock though. He was dreadful in the second half, constantly switching off or on his heels. The second time he switched off early in the second half he should have been hooked for O'Reilly who we saw when he came on although in Midfield he had the pace and energy that we needed out there that Spence didn't have to try and stop crosses before the game in or atleast make them more difficult
     
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  15. JonButterfield

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    It's one thing for me to focus more on England for a bit, I'm not sure League One football clubs need to do the same lol
     
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  16. NorthernMonkey

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    I don't remember England ever being kicked out when their fans are singing "10 German bombers in the air"?
     
  17. WilsdenBantam

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    What are you saying? Scottish international Alexander wouldn't have been slack in his job because he was so invested in England's World Cup run?
     
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  18. AngryGaz

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    Got rid of Southgate to replace him with the German version ..............should be angry but I'm not the Spanish will end up World Champions and let's be right did at any point did we really look like a side that would win it ????
     
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  19. AngryGaz

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    Why take Toney anyhow ????
     
  20. SimonW

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    This isn't fans though it's the players (and if we talk about Fans theirs have been caught repeatedly making and saying racist things this tournament).

    Making political statements is against FIFA rules. Rodri and Morata got a 1 game ban for chanting Gibraltar is Spanish before yet here we have the Argies on mass carrying a flag with a political message after a couple of games back then on mass being caught singing songs about the islands being theirs (despite the fact we had the Islands before Argentina was even a thing and anyways most of Argentina are Spanish, Italian or German colonisers so how they can claim it is ridiculous)
     
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