Other league 1 matches

I just don’t get it ?

 

Fair playing field ! Ever heard of it ?

I’ve been reading the county forum this morning , try having a read . Stott ( sorry his company) has ploughed in £10m each and every year for the last 5-6 years . The chairman got involved in the £1m purchase of Motherville and paid twice his value , apparantly in a deal with DMac when the club had already done a deal via the DoF for half the amount …fishy?
Now apparently Scott’s six year glossy plan to buy promotion to the CC has failed he’s now going down the sustainability route . The well respected DoF has moved on from the club last week ( because the money is drying up? ) and they have recruited an absolute rookie from their Academy. Talk this morning of Challenor moving on because he can’t survive on sustainability and a lack of a big transfer budget .

He can spend the owners money providing it’s there but when their so called fair playing field starts to slope they seem to be in trouble all of a sudden?

All sourced from their forum over a cuppa .

Yes without doubt , great if you have it and money generally buys success, one thing is clear it has to be earned on the grass , not twisting financial rules as I see it .

 

There are more , but apparently he was trying to tear his shirt off his back and not his hair . Why allow shirt pulling in the first place that makes defenders think they can get away with shirt pulling in the pen ara.
A simple game run by idiots .

 

The fact the owners has spent £50 m to keep the club afloat on crowds 50% less than ours says the opposite of a well run club? Why think otherwise ? They have , after yesterday, still got 23 players on expensive deals and still on contract for next season . The SEVEN (?) expensive loanees they put on the grass yesterday is more of the Bolton type thinking …..it doesn’t matter how much, the owner is paying . ( Source County forum )

 

In respect of Stockport it wasn't that long they were languishing in National League north, they're history denotes they've spent a lot of time in the bottom division and they are smack bang in the middle of the biggest hotbed of football in the country. To be where they are now, competing for continuous playoff seasons in league one is a testament to the efforts of their owners and the team they have put in place both on and off the field. Crowd numbers and where they get the finance from are largely irrelevant, we certainly wouldn't begrudge the investment their owners have put in.

 

That’s not what people/I have issues with , rather it’s about the imbalance of the haves or have nots , which is a typical representation or not ? . Dennis said earlier which I disagree with in its entirety , that County “must be a well run” club. (. Apologies if I read it wrong ) Let’s start it simply , would Huddersfield and Stockport be a “well run club” without either of their owners ploughing in £50m + each over the last few seasons ? . If so where is the evidence ? Nagle has purchased the club as a finance venture as opposed to sporting . ( The US model is “It’s only a piece of real estate” ) . Stott is the opposite he “ invested” in the club he’s supported all his life who have largely succeeded because of his largesses and a DoF and decent manager .

 

It would be very interesting to know how their commercial arm can bring in so much though
Especially with a stadium and support half the size of ours
Are their sponsors paying double than what ours are?
Are their tickets prices double ours?
You can only put one name to a shirt front or stadium , are their sponsors bigger names paying more, do they have double the sponsorship opportunities?
It’s a strange one, or are we underperforming

 

From national league North to the top end of league one for me denotes a well run club. Large monetary investment but more importantly a plan to go with it. Only have to look at the likes of Carlisle to see that investment without a coherent plan can easily go tits up. Nagle at Huddersfield will get it right at Town but only when he gets the right people at the club. Funny, he's a part owner of the Sacramento Republic who are now majority owned by the first Native American nation to own a sports team. The render of their proposed new stadium looks very impressive.

 

Our commercial department is pulling in more than it's ever done off the back of record crowd numbers. I expect them to top that again with the ticket price rise. There is a limit to how far it can go though with limited corporate facilities and no real avenue to expand them.

 

It implies therefore does it not we must be not as well run? I can’t take anything else from your comment , apologies again.

Interesting revelations skimming around their forum today. People keep quoting they have a plan for this , a plan for that based on owner investment . One was suggested they have a “ plan “ for ground improvements , until one reads the
“ plan” . It isn’t a plan in the slightest . It’s smoke and mirrors based on “ ambition” , just like us owning our own ground !

A County contributor earlier

“We're probably due a couple of mid-table finishes. Stott seems to be diversifying, but still within the "Stockport football" concept, so I'm not sure he's going anywhere. Think it might mean taps get turned off a bit for us, though. The ground plans have clearly been all but abandoned after the fanfare of the announcement; I suspect the plans for the team might go the same way”

The “ tap” , is Stott , not a better run club imho. We all know financials can be massaged to read what an outsider likes to read, especially one with a sole owner and very few other shareholders ?

We digress. Apologies for the initial misunderstanding . This statement I just don’t understand Dennis, “ earning as much as we earn has nothing to do with their owner continuing to fund their losses“

If their club isnt over spending, relative to their income, why would he need to fund losses to a tune of an average of £10m a season for the last half dozen seasons? That I can’t get my head around , sorry.

The DMac interview with Stott ……….. Worth a listen ?

 

There are some decent You Tube vids re Nagles “activities” in the US which are very very enlightening . I’m not knocking Counties progress rather , how it’s been achieved. No different to multiple Prem clubs who spent their way to the top league…..The financials of the CC are available for all to see.

 

Could you imagine what football in this country would look like, if clubs were only allowed to spend the money they actually make and then only up to 85% to make sure they stay financially viable
I can’t remember if more clubs got into financial trouble before the money took over, but I am really struggling with the game as it is and surely we will get more Sheffield Weds scenarios going forward, lucky they are a biggish club and had interest not like the Burys of this world

 

I read all this, but then we are told Stockports income from this matches ours from half the pulling power we have
How do they do that?

 

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They may be well run on the football side at least Stockport are but they are multi millions in debt so are very poor run business. We finished higher than both of a mainly self generated money. We are being very well run now

 

Playing devils advocate here, but are some saying they would turn down outside investment coming in to the club because they somehow see it as an unfair playing field? Because at the end of the day football is not a level playing field, never had been never will be.

 

I've always been of the opinion that football stadiums should be used more in the summer months to create extra income.
For example, live staged music and the income that ticket sales would bring in.
For example Old Trafford staged The Rolling Stones and Anfield The Eagles, both within the last 5/6 years or so ago, both would have brought in a superb amount of money.
Now I'm not suggesting that City should/could go to those dizzy heights but surely some decent, well known bands/artistes could be booked with the stage extending from the players entrance to the middle of the main stand?

Maybe just a pipe dream!!!

 

Doesn't look like many Salford tickets were sold for this one, decent following though from Notts. Looking forward to this one!

Notts play the same shape we do, their LCB Jacob Bedeau always looks decent, amazed if he isn't in L1 next season. Their two attacking mids in Luker and Iorpenda have looked sharp whenever I've seen them this season, Iorpenda especially, quick and good driver with the ball. Everyone here knows Jatta too at top that front 3.

Salford has a very impressive keeper this season in Matt Young who already sounds like he'll be loaned to L1 next season. Kallum Cesay has been very good attacking from midfield this season. Surprised Kelly Nmai isn't playing although he only came back from injury in the POs, a very impressive winger.