New SCMP Financial Control Rules

How is it incredible, they have virtually changed most of their squad annually? It’s cost them a massive amount based on Disney income ?

 

Yep I would love it if we could have got £18m off the government for 'ground improvements' and then spent some on the pitch thus freeing cash up for team investment

 

No I’m sorry, chucking money about at levels beyond anyone else in the league is cheating and these new rules do feck all to prevent that continuing.

 

We all think it's easy and it's just a case of splashing the cash but you have to do it properly. To be fair to the Wrexham owners they've pulled off a hell of a job with a club that spent 18 years in non league. Yes it's cost a small fortune but they've also managed to bring a lot of investment to the club to offset those costs.
I think it would have worked no matter what club they chose to purchase, I'm pretty sure no fan would have turned down the roller coaster ride they've been on.

 

Incredible amounts of money has made it happen . No different to Man City, Arsenal etc We are all quick to critique those but similar sides , say Stockport, MKD etc are the same to a lesser or greater extent . Money from outside sources rather than football / supporter income makes it happen .Either third world oil revenues, MKD , sports washing or an owner invested in his club ( County) . If not, it’s debt …just look at the CC? Success is bought, not earned in those instances?

 

It’s been happening for years, if the owners are willing to pay it then that’s up to them.
Blackburn won the Prem by doing exactly that, and Chelsea and Man City since.
Lots of cash doesn’t always guarantee success. We’ve seen that numerous times yet Parkinson has taken them through the leagues by building a team. Anyone can chuck money at a squad but building an actual team every season the way he has is testament to him. Plymouth, Luton and Huddersfield have all proved that this season while ourselves and Stevenage have proved how far hard-work and a good team spirit can get you.
Sunderland had to spend £150million to stay up this season in the prem. Leeds spent £100mill.
Like I said… you wouldn’t complain if the shoe was on our foot. To say otherwise would be a lie.

 

Very true , but for those with the boot on the other foot , it’s buying success? “Building a team every season “ has cost Wrexham an absolute fortune , without it he couldn’t have built the “ team” . Even the two multi millionaire owners of Wrexham seem to have hit a ceiling and are now seeking further outside investment .

 

Even us to be fair although a lot lesser extent. Only when Rupp realised it breaking even ain't getting you anywhere in this game and stuck his hand in his pocket did we actually move forward.

 

This is where Reynolds and his mate have to be applauded, they could have easily bailed on Parky after their early failure and there is always the temptation to go with a big name manager. But they stuck with him and were one game away from a championship playoff place.

 

Lesser in spades compared to 50% of L1?

 

What earlier failure RT?

 

They were beaten by Grimsby in the playoffs in the national league, didn't even get to the final. Owners with an itchy trigger finger might easily have pulled it. After that they had three promotions on the bounce.

 

I have nothing against Wrexham and certainly don't begrudge their long suffering fans for enjoying the ride they're on, but it's hardly a football fairytale to be bought by shallow Hollywood gazillionaires and powered up the leagues by millions of pounds more than the rest of the teams in the division. Good luck to them but it's not a romantic story for me. I watched the first couple of series of the documentary for a laugh but they can feck off now.

 

It’s where football has gone wrong in last 20 years. If one club over spends then other clubs also need to just to keep up.
My point is, this new financial rule has done nothing to prevent it. Owners will just put more in so that the 50% they can blow on wages this year is the same or more than the season before.

 

Wasn’t that their first year they started spending paying daft wages by recruiting Mullen etc?. Apologies I did go back to NL days in honesty.

 

I'm guessing they were paying somewhat above the norm from very early on, i heard from someone who worked with his dad that they signed Will Boyle from Huddersfield in the championship and gave him a pay rise to play in league 2 and he was just bang average.
The difference with what Wrexham did is how they've financed it, using their 'hollywood' influence to bring blue chip companies on board and persuade billionaires to invest in what is essentially the dream of all lower league football fans. Bit like us and Big Geoff, it was only short lived but we can look in the history books and say we had the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal etc come to the hallowed turf of Valley Parade.

 

There's been a few times even in seasons where there's been success at the end where other owners would have sacked him. There has been more than 1 occasion that a decent amount of fans wanted him sacked including when they started the league 2 season poorly. It's not just on the pitch they've been brilliant but off the pitch they bought the club the stadium, redeveloping it and bringing the stadium to UEFA and FIFA standards so international football can return, this will have benefits to the club and community long after they leave. They've also made steps improve the women's team by getting them their own stadium and making them semi-pro. Same with investment in the boys and girls academy.
People keep saying the club will collapse when they leave but I don't see that happening as they are building an infrastructure behind the scenes that will benefit the club for years to come.
There's an article on BBC that covers what they are building https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn7pdmex35zo

 

If I was a Wrexham fan my concern would be the investors are investing more in Reynolds and Rob Mac than the club itself. Them two are the glue that holds it together, otherwise it's just a non descript club in a non descript Welsh town. Without those two the media circus and the fairy tale Hollywood script disappears and that's what their new generation of fans buy into.

 

Three quarters of that article is about investment in women’s football at Wrexham ( Useless for the men’s side of the game) or great hope for the boys Academy . Claiming they can perhaps compete with the likes of Liverpool and Everton for producing Welsh talent and cite perhaps missing out on two “ stars “ in the last 10 years or so? . ( I’ve a feeling that’s being done to avoid Fair Play sanctions and points deductions ?) Even the article suggests the “ dream” may run its course? Is that why the two Hollywood investors need more outsiders to invest because they can’t afford to keep on chucking money at it?