Referees

When the refs at the top are poor what do you thinks gonna happen at our level ?????

Honestly to me the powers that be could get on top of this time wasting solution but they simply turn a blind eye to it ............its supposed to be entertainment but who the fook wants to see the ball out of play more than its in play ??????
I mean Stevenage did a job on us but we all know what there gonna do so why cant the rest get on top of it from minute one ??????? Rather than giving keepers loads of warning just give them one and the next results in a booking is that so difficult to do .............no we have multiple warning and the token booking in the 90th minute

 

How good were Man City . How poor are Chelsea ? Yes those decisions you allude to wind me up . Multiple instances of kicking balls away and interfering at free kicks go largely unpunished .

 

Surely the consequence of the shirt pulling should have a bearing on the sanction. Pulling the shirt of a player trying to get ahead of a defender running back towards his own goal does not warrant the same punishment as a player through on goal with only the keeper to beat.

 

We are talking basics here that they continue to get wrong like i said these are elite the bst of the best and even with the help of technology they still manag to fook up .............so what are we left with after that complete shite .................i mean i know where going back decades but i hardly remember walking out of a game moaning about the ref ...............btw get the tinted specs shite but there have been a hell of a lot of piss poor ref performances without City being involved

 

There isn't an 8 second rule for goal kicks, it's the time the keeper has to keep it in his hands before releasing it, appears to be no time limit for goal kicks or which side to take them from...

 

The refs need help with this one. I can guarantee that if we go a goal up and Walker takes the same time as their keeper over goal kicks there'd be absolute outrage if he'd been booked. People would be hammering the ref saying that other keepers get away with far worse.

I don't understand why there isn't a timer o getting the ball back in play. It's been talked about but they should've brought it in years ago.

 

In light of Stevenage's apparent sh*thouse tactics, I thought it'd be interesting to see how many times their keeper had been booked this season.

Any guesses? Once. In the 4th minute (I'm assuming that wasn't for time wasting.) Conclusions?

1. Refs allow time wasting across the board (at least they're consistent)

2. He's no worse than anyone else, it's just stemmed from our frustration at being a goal down / needing a goal. He's under no obligation to 'get on with it' just because we want a goal.

3. He normally isn't that bad but he decided to time waste more than against other teams for some reason.

For the record Walker has only been booked once this season too. I'm fairly certain that he takes his time plenty when we are a goal up. If he's not, he bloody well should be.

 

Far be it from me to interrupt this ref love fest; my observations of watching football over the years it appears to be less consistency and more rules which add to the inconsistency rather than lesson.

This year I have watched one match on TV it wasn’t a city match whereby I didn’t notice the ref. I don't want to know his name or his own personal stats. I want to watch football. His task is to set the environment for a free flowing match that thousands have come to watch. What I saw on Saturday was a disgraceful exhibition of poor weak refereeing.

His job is to make difficult decisions. I knew he was aware of the stop start game, and the Stevenage slowing the game down, he made a decision to do nothing about it. He allowed a player to assault another and gave him a yellow. Then we have the free kick and corner ref routine practiced by the majority. Players pushing and shoving each other, the ref then walks into the middle of the melee and presumably tells them to stop it, he then walks back to his spot the pushing and shoving continues, this happens normally once, but can happen twice. What is that all about? Unless he is going to do something it is just more time wasting.


The ref should tell the manager what he will not tolerate before the match starts. We know there is inconsistency but every attempt to make refs apply the rules ending up with more inconsistency. I think I would like to see how a time keeper completely separate from a referee would work.

 

There is too much open to interpretation for referees
The rules need to be precise
On Saturday they time wasted from minute one in an attempt to break up play, committed lots of niggaly fouls. , that went unpunished, especially the no 8
I have also watched Wrights supposed foul before his goal was chalked off
I can not see him commit any offence, the keeper actually backs into him I am attempt to reach the ball which was going over his head and Wright just stands his ground.Very soft decision

 

Im happy to have a proper debate about the refs but if you think Wright's challenge on the goalkeeper wasn't a foul then there's really no point. You won't admit it obviously but if that challenge is on Walker you'd be saying its a foul all day long. Nobody away from this board would support your view.

 

It wasn’t
The keeper backs into him
Wright basically stands his ground and I would say the same if the foul had been given to Walker
The one in the first half their keeper runs into his own player and drops the ball, also given the free kick
Far too over protected for me

 

The first one the ref bottled it. Hedidnt want a goal being conceded from a mistake from him and he went for the safe option.

The second one the keeper has eyes firmly focused on the ball. He back peddles to catch it and there's no way Wright is getting there first. Keeper jumps up gets both hands on it and then Wright jumps into him. He knows he's going to hit the keeper as he half turns to set himself for impact, he jumps straight into the keeper's back (he didn't 'stand his ground') no where near the ball, causing the keeper to spill it. It's been a foul for the last 30 years. Come on.

 

Referees should not be bottling anything
Two wrongs don’t make a right

 

Promising attack ? What is a corner of nothing but a promising attack ?

 

What 'corner' are you referring to? I don't remember saying anything about a corner?

 

“Shirt pulling” is the reference point . A promising attack and shirt pull is bookable , yet at a corner it’s a melee of shirt pulling.

 

What would you do Kev? You've got 5 pairs of players wrapped around each other on both sides with arms around shoulders, grappling with each other, backing in, holding each other's shirts. Just book all of them? It's part of the reason why officials have just ignored it unless it's absolutely blatant. Players are going to use their arms at set pieces, it's inevitable but where do you draw the line?

A corner is a very different scenario to a player breaking forward and being tugged back to stop an attack which is a much more straight forward situation to officiate.

 

Definitely a foul these days in the past that would have been a good goal. As for rules in general defenders including ours get away far more in the box than outside it.

 

There's a good reason for that. The stakes are much higher with giving a foul in the box so naturally the officials are looking for a higher degree of certainty in their mind that a foul has been committed.