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Ground reconfiguration for away fans

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Silverbantam, Mar 4, 2026.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    Oh i agree, that part of the stadium is now a let down but planning restraints mean i'm as likely to see a flying pig as to see any fundamental changes to the current structure.
     
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  2. Birky Bantam

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    The point of the changes is to allow more home fans into the stadium which any of the suggestions would do. Depending on how it's done it could free up upto 700 more home seats. Like others have said it's not currently needed as we've only sold out the home end once this season, however, if we make it to the Championship then it will become more frequent. It's something the club are right to think of now so plans can be looked at rather than rushing it in a summer.
     
  3. NorthernMonkey

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    Adding a second gate to lower the away allocation in the MR to one block and allowing more home fans makes sense, that I agree with. Someone suggested it a few days ago and that's how I imagined it happening when I read the ST minutes.

    What I'm confused about is how moving some home fans from MR and giving the away team a bigger allocation in there increases overall tickets available for home fans? Unless I'm being really daft, we'd need exactly the same segregation and the overall seats across the MR and TL Dallas would be the same?
     
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  4. Stafford Bantam

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    It may not just be a case of moving the gate. It may also involve reconfiguring the toilet facilities, so that each side of the 'divide' has sufficient numbers.

    In the short to medium term, giving the away fans the Bradford End, plus one block of the Midland Road (if required), makes a lot of sense. In the longer term, I hope that the Club find a way of improving the Bradford End, so that it can accommodate home fans on a pemanent basis.
     
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  5. Bronco

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    :joy::joy::joy:
     
  6. Bigrod

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    If they want to reduce the number of covered seats, then a possible system using toughened glass sections, which lock into place may well be an option. Perhaps just one row next to it with covers on?
    I think the club will need to be creative with segregation and not alienate existing season ticket holders then you need a creative solution.
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  7. Bigrod

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    I know the Club is reluctant, but could it be used for Safe Standing, or is there a rule that they have to have a similar number of Safe Standing spaces, available to visiting fans?
    An alternative would be to introduce Safe Standing to all of the Midland Road and Bradford End.
     
  8. Bigrod

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    The Midland Road, had a capacity of 4,500, split into 7 Blocks. I know they don’t all have exactly the same capacity, but it will only be a very small figure. Simply put 4500 divided by 7 comes out at just under 643 per block. So around 1929 in three blocks. I anticipate that the EFL/FA, will adopt a rigid approach and say that such an allocation doesn’t comply with their rules.
     
  9. NorthernMonkey

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    I think the club have said that the steps aren't wide enough to accommodate safe standing. I'm assuming this would apply to the MR stand as the steps aren't particularly wide.
     
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  10. Bigrod

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    Fair point. I am just trying to be creative.
     
  11. CrosbyBantam

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    I really hope this is the plan the club has alluded to. The current set-up allows for 10% (~2.4k away tickets) but this could allow them to just use one block of the MR, as you suggest.

    I remember when the Bradford End was the default for away fans and the end blocks of the MR were only for teams who wanted the full allocation. We moved away from that when it wasn't worth opening the Bradford End and just shoved the 300 or Cheltenham fans (or such like) into the end of the MR.

    I'd got back to the Bradford End being for the away fans and then only using parts of the MR for them when full allocations are needed. Being able to offer one block, or the current 2.5 blocks, would give the club flexibility.

    I've been in the Bradford End and it's rubbish. Don't see the fascination with having home fans behind both goals either. Rather than annoying existing fans, just stick away fans in the worst stand in the ground and use those extra blocks in the MR as and when required.

    When not required for away fans they'd make ideal space for pay on the day home fans who want to sit together.
     
  12. bantam316

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    I think supporters in Block E will have to move to make way, A-D is fine.. i think the plan is to put gates at the top and bottom to keep the fans apart, so E-F-G and TL Dallas for the larger away followings,

    They can't move anymore without giving the whole stand to them because of the segregation gate and the beer pumps....
     
  13. andyc

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    Whats 71 seats between friends
     
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  14. Interested Bystander

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    a long way to shout
     
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  15. andyc

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    Dont worry Midland road dwellers
    When i win the euromillions tonight and buy the stadium from the ginger troll, i will knock down all the houses behind the Bradford end and build another kop end
     
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    You could pass a note, or Chinese whispers
     
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  17. NorthernMonkey

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    If only they'd mentioned about fitting a second gate.
     
  18. andyc

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    Yes its to lock fans in the ground and stop anyone leaving early
     
  19. Birky Bantam

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    Giving them more in midland road would just be giving them more in that stand but less overall. If the 3.5 blocks came to 2 300 then there would be 400 more home tickets.

    What I don't think has been mentioned yet is the allocations in EFL Cup and FA Cup which are both higher with 10% for EFL Cup and 15% for FA Cup so whatever configuration we go for needs to have them option in mind. Paula Watson said in the meeting with the trust that the capacity is around 24,100 so would need 2,400ish for the EFL Cup and 3,600ish for the FA Cup. This could be what gives the TL Dallas and 1 block of midland road as league allocation the edge. EFL Cup would be TL Dallas and 1.5 blocks in Midland road which gives around 2,500 then the reverse of Midland Road for the FA cup with away fans on the home side and home fans in the 1 block which should give enough for 3,600. That would then mean 1 segregation gate for 1 block and one for 1.5 blocks. These would all require us to do something we've not done for 10 years and get a big home game in either competition. If we get a game like Middlesbrough a few years ago then just give them the usual whole of Midland Road as we won't be selling out the home end.
     
  20. Bigrod

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    It’s not me. But you know how rigid and pedantic these organisations are.
    I would have thought some form of special dispensation could be agreed.
    Are we friends with Doncaster after their ‘manipulation’ of the system, last season?
    Again, if it was possible to remodel the TLDallas Bradford End to a Safe Standing area, that could be attractive to a lot of City supporters. But probably not possible to provide a similar section for visiting supporters.
    I guess the bureaucrats in the EFL would not support the option (despite many visiting supporters standing irrespective of the regulations!).
     
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