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Promotion/Championship/Finance/Ownership/Costs….

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Rogered Tart, Feb 3, 2026.

  1. Dennis

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    Maybe we're looking to ground share at the Emirates or Hillsborough? Or possibly Oldham? Or even York? You're not being very positive about our prospective new home once we've binned the lease at VP! ;)
     
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  2. andyc

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    Absolutely love it
    Get me some costs together
    I will see what is in my piggy bank and down the back of the sofa
     
  3. Tony Wilkinson

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    Where have all the people from all those cars gone....?
     
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  4. andyc

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    Yes £1 a week each from 10000 fans
    In 20 years we might be able to afford 1 stand at today’s costs
    Lots of us will probably be dead , but why not , it’s worth it
     
  5. andyc

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    Playing pool on the concourse
     
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  6. andyc

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    Yes and most are brand new
     
  7. Kevin1954

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    Don’t worry Loyal will fund so far, funding the building of a multimillion pound stadium, our own coaching facilities at Odsal AND transport infrastructure to get fans to Horsfall .
    Simple innit?
     
  8. Kevin1954

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    Why are you ducking my question …..

    How do you propose to fund this scheme of yours, one that doesn’t saddle the club with a £50-£100m debt pile?
     
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  9. bantam316

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    Having a 25 year rent on VP again would be suicide if its the same model as what we have now, ie 500k no matter what league we are in. Ideally the rent should be tiered, ie the lower the league the lower the rent... We should use what happened with Stockport as an example, when they dropped to the conference they almost lost their ground because it was too big for the conference and they couldn't maintain it, if we drop to the conference within the next 25 years or so, then the same could potentially happen to us.. 500k rent would kill us in the conference with an empty ground. If Rupp can't buy the ground by 2028 then he either sells to someone who can or we tell Gibb to do one and play elsewhere.. Gibb would soon come into line, We have our new American sponsers.. maybe they could threaten tariffs on Gibb and Flamingo Land :)
     
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  10. Klaatu

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    Woodside
     
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  11. Loyalbantam

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    As I’ve said, I have no idea. I’m not gonna suggest a venue.
    All I’m saying is we cannot enter a new 25 year lease with Gibb unless the terms are flexible dependant on which division we are in.
     
  12. Loyalbantam

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    Nobody wants that option of playing 50 miles away but we cannot sign a 25 year lease where rent increases annually. As pointed out by others, suppose we play 10 years in the Championship and the rent is £1m per year but then we fall down again into L2…..bye bye club forever.
     
  13. Loyalbantam

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    I’m not dodging the question.
    Why would we need 50-100m to share a stadium for 2 seasons until Gibb is ready to sell VP or agree to more favourable lease terms.
     
  14. Kevin1954

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    That doesn’t answer my question . I won’t repeat it a third time , otherwise people see through your financial naivety .
     
  15. Bronco

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    Then as Ryan said we need to bring even more successful to the club being in the Championship the rent becomes less of a burden, and thats where Julian didn't think going forward we might not be in the same league as we were presently in, and took a deal that was based on what division we were in at the time of accepting the terms on offer, but what many seem to forget is if Gordon Gibb had not purchase Valley Parade we quite possibly would have struggled to get through our second administration, lets not paint Gordon Gibb as the bogy man in this scenario.
     
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  16. Rogered Tart

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    Those are things you can negotiate on. But if you are going to play hardball and threaten to move you need a suitable venue or else it fails at the first hurdle. Then you have to work out what a new venue will charge and the losses made in moving your organisation, because its not just game day but the whole week operation that goes on at Valley Parade, not just game day. Then there is the cost of logistics, the potentially permanent loss of thousands of your fan base, a possible drop in divisions due to not playing at your 'home' stadium and the loss that would incur. But thats all immaterial if you don't find a team willing to share their venue, a team that also knows you are desperate and can charge you accordingly.
     
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  17. Bronco

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    Who's to say it won't be, once again Gordon Gibb or the trustees have to get the best deal as possible for the pension fund by law after the Maxwell fiasco with the Daily Mirror pension fund money ?.
     
  18. AngryGaz

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    The twats where below 20k just over 10 years but they magically forget that
     
  19. AngryGaz

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    You know that how ????
    Some folk think he was some kind of saint but lets not forget he was part of Richmonds board ......... dont forget he basically sent us down in 2007 ......... was it him that forced the admin back in 2005 because he fell out with Gibb ????
     
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  20. AngryGaz

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    With the righr council at the helm we would have had that option and that would have been Odsal because i bet any other major City within the UK would have developed it years ago as some kind of venue beyond a sporting one ...............
     

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