Promotion/Championship/Finance/Ownership/Costs….

Only if you develop an elite means of recruiting, developing and selling young talent, on a very consistent basis.

 

I reckon we're getting to a point where it can be done. Because at some point something has to give and owners stop funding and we see more Sheff Wednesdays. That will lead to a balance out of parity.

That would give any clubs who aren't massively bankrolled a huge advantage, especially if that club has big crowds and is a good prospect for sponsorship.

But that's ifs and buts, it may never happen. There's some folk with money to literally burn.

 

I agree . The main issue there is it would have to be a FIFA regulatory body. If it was EFL only, there could be a talent drain to Europe or beyond, paying better wages.

 

Yeah, I imagine if there's an injury or he gets a run of games, we'll enact that clause to extend, if not and he's back up as we probably all expect, he'll probably depart in May.

 

I dont know the ins and outs around football finances in the slightest, but I'm fascinated to see what Wrexham will be like in the PL, it's a matter of time. But when they are there, what's their spending power like compared to the rest? Small ground, currently undergoing changes in the training base I think, but who will they attract and what's their spending limit is going to be fun to watch. They sold 1 share the other week for £47m I think I read? Wonder what their shares will be worth in the PL.....

 

Those with their snouts in the trough aren't voting for the trough to be opened up for all and sundry.

Definitely veering into politics here though!

 

I think for some it is just a plaything and a status symbol.
For others there is another means of making money like at Town where the chairman is buying up a lot of land around the ground for hotels and other development.
For some I think it is useful as a means of avoiding tax as a loss against which to offset profits.
On the offchance of making it to the promised land of the Premier League and its riches and potentially turning that into a closed shop with no relegation.
Or a combination of any of those.
It is a risk and a gamble, but people who have amassed wealth are often risk takers, often with other people's money, e.g Glasers, Richmond!

 

I remember reading an interview with Trevor Hemmings son (PNE). Money is no object to them as he was a billionaire.They budgeted to lose 10m a year at Preston just to keep the club afloat in respect of his fathers wishes.
I expect the Coates Family just pick up the loose change down the back of their sofa for any Stoke City losses.

 

Yeah, agree, absolutely no way.

You'd have to have a pretty perfect season to stay up once, then it would get harder the next season as every player that performs will be able to get paid much better elsewhere by default.

But we knew this when Rupp took over, that's what's puzzling. The Championship landscape wasn't totally dissimilar, the clubs were overspending massively, and recording tens of millions of losses in some cases.

It's not new, so I'd like to know what Stefan thinks about it now, and if his stance has changed on funding us as a Championship club: why?

 

The club need to have serious thought about how they are able to bridge this gap. Seen people suggest that our break even budget is bottom 6. Rupps investment making it mid table. Surely that can’t go on and will eventually take us back wards.

What more needs to be done:
Ticket increases
More squad assets (initial outlay costs)
Scrapping youth team
Investing in youth
I don’t know how but more commercial opportunities

Not sure but some serious questions need answering on long term plans as it’s clear he funding us to get there and unlikely to fund once they’re. Apparently we are unique in that this club is expensive to run, well maybe it’s time Rupp looks for help.

 

I don’t profess to have any financial knowledge at all so am speaking just as a fan.

Why have no clubs actually gone tits up at this level yet?
Is it solely down to mega rich owners just covering all losses?

Sheffield Wednesday are the obvious club to be front and centre at the moment but they will be bought by somebody eventually and will continue to function as Sheffield Wednesday.

Whats the tipping point?

Also we are now in Feb and in a great position to at least get in the playoffs.

You are then just 3 games away from the Championship.
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that come May we are in that position.
Do you think Rupp would prefer us to stay where we are as he is in no way rich enough to fund a proper go at staying in the Championship?

I know you can’t answer the last bit but it’s not an impossible scenario to imagine.

 

We need to keep punching above our weight and continue keeping the club in the spotlight. We need investment in scouting to pick up more players like Metcalfe.And we need to continue expanding our commercial enterprises. The better we do the better chance we will have of attracting top finance

 

I am probably been incredibly naive here, but I assume we will have increased income from TV and commercial etc, and the only increased costs will be salaries. So if additional income is say £10m (just a figure) in the first year, then we have an extra £10m to spend on contracts. So that's our extra budget, spread across the full length of the contracts so we don't struggle if we go straight back down. We cut our cloth accordingly and if we go down we go down. Simples.

What am I missing ?