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Andy Cook and his future at City (with Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Kevin1954, Aug 5, 2025.

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What is the likely future for Andy Cook

  1. Essential starter (20+ goals a season Or ratio about 1:2)

  2. Important Starter (15+ goals a season Or ratio about 1:3)

  3. Starter but far less influential (10+ goals a season Or ratio 1:4.5)

  4. Impact sub (Success gets important goals)

  5. Sub (Little impact can’t find the net often enough)

  6. Never makes sufficient recovery to feature in a meaningful way

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  1. Kevin1954

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    Just finished Hendrie’s , now onto Bobby and Dean Windass’s last in line .
    Bobbys book is autographed , “ Bobby Campbell - Ledgend” , don’t know if it’s authentic mind. I’ll check one day.
     
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  2. Get Rid Of It

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    I got the City book when they were champions and turned up to get the autographs, only one missing was Trevor Cherry i think, and Bobby, bless him spoke to me in his broad norn iron lingo
    I have no idea what mr Campbell said!
    :(

    Mind you, Andy Cook and Dean Windass are not easy on the ear either, and they could find the back of the net
    Probably related, if you struggle to understand them, they are going to be decent strikers
     
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  3. Kevin1954

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    Did Trevor Hockey do a book…I’m struggling to remember .
     
  4. Tennesseebantam

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    Ok, so I’m one of the 2%. Just for clarity, what I think will happen and what I hope will happen are polar opposites. I hope my prediction is completely wrong.
     
  5. NorthernMonkey

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    It's nonsense. It's a generalisation from a completely different sport in a completely different country.

    Like I said, give me and Cookie until 2026 then if you think I'm (were) wrong, give me a shout.

    I'm happy to put any amount of money towards the burns unit in the meantime though.
     
  6. Edinho1

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    He has only played one season at this level. No guarantee at all that he will start scoring every week as soon as he is back.
     
  7. Gardscoigne

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    I’d take a 90th minute winner against the dogs, off the bench, even if it’s the only goal he scores

    I do think yesterday highlighted why we need a natural out and out striker on the pitch tho, too many chances going begging.
     
  8. NorthernMonkey

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    If yesterday doesn't show people the importance of having a finisher then I give up

    Yes, movement and the ability to press and run the channels is important in our set up but if we aren't finishing the chances we create then it's all wasted.

    Humphrys isn't a finisher, regardless of what a good player he is and the sooner we have a natural striker up top for him to play off of the better we will be.
     
  9. Chris Withe

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    As I said in my original post, individual players may differ in their outcomes post injury, Cooke might be one of the lucky ones. That wasn't my point, I was questioning whether your assertion that 'ACL injuries aren't that serious these days' was accurate and the non-anecdotal scientific/statistical data I could find proved otherwise. I didn't know whether ACL injury treatment had improved immeasurably or not over recent years when I read your original post. You advised people to Google it and I did, what I could find appears to show the opposite.

    Great that you know more than the National Library of Medicine [where the two papers I quoted in my post originate] in the most medically advanced country on this planet. Provide some tangible evidence that proves your point rather than just giving your opinion and I'll happily concede to your superior knowledge!

    Athletes are still athletes, ACL injuries are the same regardless of the country in which they take place.
     
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  10. Onside

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    There should be no doubt within the club that we need a striker to finish our recruitment. I don’t have a problem with Cookie coming back we have room for two different strikers. We are like a cherry cake without a cherry on top! Finish the shopping City.
     
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  11. Bigrod

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    Spotted this paper which could be referenced in the discussion!

    Most professional players in Europe (93%–100%) are able to return to football after ACLR, 1 3-6 but only 55%–65% of players still compete at the same preinjury level 3–4 years after injury.

    https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/23/1350
     
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  12. Kevin1954

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    Cookie won’t be a measure though , as he will likely retire (?) within that 3-4 year window anyway?

    Without reading the article ( I would hardly understand it anyway) was there any age separations in the stats ? Quite critical I would have thought?
     
  13. Bantam-in-Greece

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    Spot on NM.
    Ever since Cook was injured I have wanted an out and out striker to come in, initially to get us over the line last season (luckily we did) and also for a bit of healthy competition for places.
    GA brought in Mellon on loan, a kid from Burnley who didn't set the place alight, even though when he came on/started he had his chance.
    Then Kavanagh who just isn't an out and out striker but plays off of one, who was receiving Cook type balls even though the lad is doesn't have that height.
    Now this season GA is 'making do' again, putting Humphrys up there when it has been stated by all that that isn't his position.
    None of us know whether Cook will return as his old self or not, I hope he does, but are we going to gamble on that?
    It seems that every other position in the team is well covered - except the striking dept.

    Come on City before the window closes!
     
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  14. Petrov

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    I'm not sure it's making do so much as GA seems to think he can turn players into something they are not. He tried it with Tyreik at LWB and failed, tried it with Leigh as a striker and failed, and now he's trying it with Humps. Maybe he will turn out to be right on this one but I'm not convinced.
     
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  15. NorthernMonkey

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    You lost me when you made up that I said ACL injuries weren't that serious these days so I didn't bother with the rest of the post.
     
  16. Bigrod

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    This is within the body of the paper, ‘...compared with 51% (19/37) of players older than 25 years (p=0.02). Only two of 14 players over 30 years at the index ACLR were still playing at the top-level after 5 years’.
    It is not an academic area I have any expertise in at all. What it seems to suggest looking at that, is that age may well be a relevant factor in recovery and the quality of said recovery.
    Again for anyone reading this and earlier posts, then I sincerely hope that Andy can make 100% recovery and return to his prime.
    However to ignore potential consequences and ramifications, is in my view disingenuous.
     
  17. Bronco

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    This is not a criticism of Sarcevic Humphry's or Pattison but I know who I'd back to stick one of those chances away when available, Humphry's has openly said is not his best position (I thought at times yesterday he was trying too hard if that makes sense) in a position I don't think he expected to be in.
    With Cook out we have to make do and Humphry's although he didn't score against Wycombe he was very influential unfortunately not as influential yesterday playing the same role.
    It's easy to sit and criticise but once again I'll have to question why Swan was not introduced earlier in the second half, we were more than coping with what Northampton threw at us, we needed to be IMO that little more adventurous with regards our attacking options, I believe Northampton were there for the taking yesterday, and after listening to Alexanders post match interview I think he thought the same.
     
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  18. Kevin1954

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    Yes I did suspect age could be a limitation on any recovery outcomes . Ta for the head up. If he gets a decent two to three years going forward then I suspect he will be after a free bus pass by that time anyway …. ;)
     
  19. Bronco

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    Reading today's article by Simon Parker it looks like Cook is giving Alexander grief to get him back involved, I thought he might late September he'd be on the bench, can the backroom staff take 5 weeks of ear ache from the goal machine ?.
     
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  20. Park bantam

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    I think initially he will be on the bench for impact I would be happy if he scored the 15 he needs to move up our leading ever scorers
     
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